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and folks welcome to arcane radio

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we're back it's been a little while but

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uh i hope you recognize our voices of

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course i'm sean the fork chop forker

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joined by lon strickler and our good

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friend butch wachkowski here tonight as

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we bring you dark waters

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the uh paranormal storyteller a little

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bit later on on the show but guys

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welcome back it's been a while what has

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happened in the last few weeks since

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we've been off of course

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we lost john green the uh you know one

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of my uh

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heroes in the bigfoot world his work

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sasquatch stapes among us and his other

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books year the sasquatch

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really inspired me to get into bigfoot

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research i read his book

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sasquatch tapes among us when i was nine

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years old and it kind of captivated me

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and brought me into the subject so of

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course we lost him actually may 28th but

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the family just reported a couple weeks

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ago

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john green of course uh i would say the

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leading investigator and one of the more

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serious

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journalists into the subject of course

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sasquatch and then

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you know this last this past week i lost

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my good friend uh a good friend of

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pennsylvania bigfoot research kelly

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beverly she fought with cancer for some

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time she was such a sweet lady

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i was so blessed to know her and uh of

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course we lost her too

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so it's bigfoot deaths kind of uh

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cropping up on us there but

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uh we'll miss them but we're glad

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they're in a better place of course

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yeah so butch while we wait for lon to

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come back on what's been going on with

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dog man

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well uh you know i was up at that

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conference that eric had

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up there in farmington and i got another

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report face to face

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and uh ladies from up around port mattel

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to pennsylvania

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and she um got to watch this thing for

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between 10 and 12 minutes standing

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outside in front of her house

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they have a pond out front and she

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described it right to a tee

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and i asked her what it was doing she

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said just kept staring in the pond and i

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said for

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all that time she said yep and the only

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thing i could think of

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and somebody else kicked it around with

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me and i thought about a little bit i'm

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thinking like

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you know maybe it was a brilliant that's

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why she was looking outside anyway at

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that time of night it was a brilliant

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full moon on august 29th

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of last year and she uh she said she

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could see every bit of it but she was

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looking at it sideways but she still

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caught all the features and the size and

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everything else and i'm thinking now

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it may have been watching his phone

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reflection in the pool in the pond well

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that's a thought

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looking at itself there in the uh yeah

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water it never did that before well it'd

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be startling for it to see

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you know you and i are used to mirrors

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even though you and i both don't like to

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look at them

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we're used to them but i guess you could

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imagine another being

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seeing itself in a reflection of

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something for the first time that could

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be rather remarkable and startling

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yeah because she said it just stared and

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stared she said it never moved

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the only thing that she could see moving

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and she said i'm not sure about it she

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there was some movement behind the

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calves

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and she thought that it possibly was a

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tail she didn't see a tail but she saw

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like a movement back and forth

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and i said well possibly yes sure

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but um to watch it for that long

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and then uh the next day oh she did go

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in she shut the door after a while and

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then i went and got her husband went out

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of course was gone by that time

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but the next day they have a

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one-year-old

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pitbull and he's still a puppy so but

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for the whole time they have him uh

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every morning he goes outside runs down

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does his thing stiff around a little bit

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runs back in and runs right out to the

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dish in the bowl and

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starts chomping kind of like you and me

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that next morning he runs outside he

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stops at the top of the steps

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he sheepishly goes down the bottom of

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he paces back and forth for a little bit

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then he goes over and hits every tire

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on both cars comes back

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makes three or four stops around the

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they had to coax him out he said they

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said he was scared to death i can

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so you know it's just a lot of weird

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things happening with this it's just

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very it's getting unnerving you know

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we're getting ready to leave to head up

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there again

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up into penfield clearfield area and

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we're going to go over to blair county

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at the same time and see those two sites

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try to put together a a good sized

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uh when the weather starts to turn

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probably about early september

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they keep on coming how many reports

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have we had so far since we've been

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documenting this 16. so

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we stepped back we started talking about

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this last year around what time do you

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was it was about

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july okay so almost a year

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and in that time 16 reports have come in

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lon you back with us

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so yeah that's i mean you know and they

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have not been outside the lycan loop

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that we had that you know long and put

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uh they've not been outside that area

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so they're all contained all these

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the scope of that particular

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geographical area that we have mapped

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on the website correct yes that's

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interesting i'm outside of that

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western part of pennsylvania they're

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just two different beings i mean you

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it a werewolf so i'm just calling an

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upright

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bipedal canine for lack of a better word

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but the descriptions are way off i mean

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they're not even close

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the the dog man out there is uh much

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size and height body build

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is short hair either black or dark brown

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we're out there they're describing

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you know fluffy coats and fluffy tails

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wolf sanctuary which is not too far from

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where i live

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and i just want to spend a few hours

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with the wolves and look at some

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mannerisms and take some pictures

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see what you can kind of make a

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correlation to yeah

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i heard there was a rehabilitation

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facility up in the northern part of the

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state is that do you know anything about

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no i know there is one i don't know

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anything about that but this one here is

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a wolf sanctuary

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okay it's in linux pennsylvania okay

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yeah that's down uh

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down in your neck of the woods right

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between me and lancaster yeah

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yeah and uh i i just i just want to see

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i've been there once before but it was a

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see if the lady can get one to stand up

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how much how tall it is i uh i heard

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i didn't know if anybody listening or

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you have any idea on that but if you can

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we'd be glad to hear from you folks we

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you know sometimes it shows a little

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rough around the edges but we always do

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get it get it out to you uh there's some

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archive shows that need to be posted yet

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that they'll be posted here

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at some point in the next couple weeks

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where a little backlog long was lon was

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into his new home and uh has some other

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things going on so we just

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you know how it goes butch we're busy

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people

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you know now i can now i can harass him

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up close and personal he's not that far

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away

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i know i know he's looking forward to

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these uh you know you were talking about

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the you know the dogman sightings i you

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know i don't know how many we've

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we've had it's has it been 16

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up 16. well yeah you know and the

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weather's starting to break now

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and you know it's you know i i know

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you're

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you are going to be going out soon i um

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i haven't gotten anything recently in pa

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you know hopefully we'll start getting

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some stuff but

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um you know we just saw that we just saw

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one near the pennsylvania lineup in new

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and uh we'll see how that i mean i don't

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know exactly where that was at

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but i got i got a suspicion it's not far

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from two other sightings up there

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so we'll have to see if we can figure

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out where that was that

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and um you know see what's going on

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there

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but um well i just want to see their

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behavior i just want to sit and watch

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them for a couple hours i mean don't

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i mean you give them a donation when

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you're there but i don't have a problem

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i mean well good that they're doing that

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but

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you know yeah yeah yeah that is a good

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idea because i tell you

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i mean you know we have no idea what the

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hell is going on

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i mean i mean it's we're getting

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you know we're getting these distinct

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archetypes of these upright canines

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and um you know

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of course we we believe we have at least

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one supernatural

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sighting but uh you know it could be it

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could be any of those i mean it could be

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um you know you know right now we really

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don't actually know what we've got it's

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just going to take a lot more

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investigation

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yeah and another thing i'd like to i'm

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going to want to photograph i want to

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photograph their legs a lot

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and uh prints that they're leaving

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yeah and i did talk to the lady today so

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she said yeah no problem come on up

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but uh so you know i'll get some fresh

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prints that are

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you know i'm not going to cast anything

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because i don't want to do that

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in their place right but i'll get some

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good photographs of that and hawk legs

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and

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what

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of shoot some video and

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take a bunch of pictures and see what i

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come up with you know we ought to have

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an interesting show tonight because

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we've got this

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gentleman that goes by the name of dark

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waters so i'm hoping he's got

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at least one dog man story that he could

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tell us oh i listened to him

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when i found out it was going to be on i

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you know i didn't know the guy and i

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listened to a couple shows he was on and

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and he's amazing he's a he's a great

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storyteller

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yeah i mean he's like reading a book

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when you're listening to that guy

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yeah well he's joined us tonight so

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anybody that

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and he does have a great voice i talked

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to him about a week ago and uh

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yeah he's got a voice definitely made

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for this so you know we're gonna listen

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to his stories

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but um i've got a few things here i was

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going to ask what did you bring

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i like long stories too you know i've

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been getting

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uh there have been a lot of uh black

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stories coming into darkness radio

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and my buddy jamie

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has um has been transcribing some of

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this stuff for me and i'll tell you

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there's some

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one we got one actually got one from

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sydney australia and i think it's pretty

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interesting

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uh this guy by name of keith wrote in he

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said i live near

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sydney in a busy part of town uh

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one afternoon i was asleep as i worked

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nights and there was a knocking on the

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front door

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i had to walk down the stairs to answer

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whoever was knocking

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was very persistent so i couldn't just

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ignore it

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i went down and and looked through the

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spiral and saw

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two young girls i couldn't see much of

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them and asked

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what they wanted one said we're hurt

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let us in we were hurt i couldn't make

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out their faces

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and then notice there was blood on their

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hands

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i opened the door and they hurried in

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i was still a bit groggy from sleep i

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saw the blood on their clothes and hands

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i asked where their parents were and

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they just said far away

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i told them i would call an ambulance

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and turn to get to my thumb

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as i did the brown hair girl grabbed my

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arm with a lot of strength

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and told me not to go i was taken aback

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by this

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i looked at her face and saw that she

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had pure black eyes

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this freaked me out and i pulled out of

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her grasp

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a little too hard and i went to grab my

385
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phone that was in the next room

386
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this all occurred in under a minute and

387
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i was quite shocked

388
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that this was happening when i got back

389
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they were gone

390
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i checked the house they had vanished i

391
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ran out

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the front and down the stairs looked

393
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down the street but still nothing

394
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i was thinking i was thinking to myself

395
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that i must be stuck in a dream

396
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i thought that until i got to my steps

397
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and saw the blood stains on my front

398
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door then saw the blood on my

399
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arm and and it wasn't mine i told my

400
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wife when she got home and she showed me

401
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the

402
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um i had a few bruises on my arm from

403
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when the child grabbed me and they

404
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lasted until a few days later

405
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now you know that the the thing about

406
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this one

407
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like some other ones we've gotten is

408
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these

409
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now i mean there there have been

410
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instances when people see them walk away

411
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and go down the street or wherever but

412
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there have been others where they they

413
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seem to move

414
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so i don't know what to think about that

415
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one as far as the blood goes i have no

416
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idea

417
00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:17,279
where it would have come from and i

418
00:14:20,069 --> 00:14:19,040
don't think i really want to find out be

419
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honest with you

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i'd start punting them as soon as they

421
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um i did have a cryptid story which uh

422
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i posted a couple weeks ago

423
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this guy in uh chattanooga called in to

424
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tell his

425
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sighting he said where i grew up in

426
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chattanooga tennessee

427
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right behind my grandmother's house was

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a cemetery

429
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behind that were railroad tracks behind

430
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that

431
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everybody always called

432
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the tnt and i was always told

433
00:15:01,670 --> 00:14:59,360
they tested bombs ammunitions tanks and

434
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other stuff back there during world war

435
00:15:05,350 --> 00:15:04,639
ii when we were kids we would always

436
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walk back

437
00:15:11,670 --> 00:15:09,360
in there just wasting time in the woods

438
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it was a thousand eight thousand acres

439
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are just rolling hills up and down all

440
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over the place

441
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well i was back here with my friend one

442
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and we kept thinking we were seeing

443
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someone following us

444
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we couldn't really make out any

445
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definition

446
00:15:33,509 --> 00:15:31,759
but it just looked like there was a

447
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white figure on top of the hill every

448
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time

449
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we get down to the bottom of the hill

450
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we get down to a little plateau and we

451
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had three ways we could take

452
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we could go back towards the house and

453
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we could go

454
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on the left or right and deeper in the

455
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all of a sudden i hear my friend go hey

456
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what's what's that

457
00:16:00,550 --> 00:15:59,440
i look up in the tree and there's a

458
00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:00,560
gigantic

459
00:16:05,350 --> 00:16:03,279
bird sitting in the top of the tree up

460
00:16:07,269 --> 00:16:05,360
near the top branches

461
00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:07,279
before i couldn't even turn up and look

462
00:16:13,430 --> 00:16:10,800
at it i hear this giant swooshing sound

463
00:16:15,269 --> 00:16:13,440
behind us and whatever it was it was

464
00:16:17,430 --> 00:16:15,279
following us

465
00:16:18,470 --> 00:16:17,440
it took flight and landed right next to

466
00:16:21,829 --> 00:16:18,480
the other one

467
00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:21,839
in the tree and when it did it broke the

468
00:16:27,110 --> 00:16:24,160
tree limb the limbs came crashing down

469
00:16:27,749 --> 00:16:27,120
big lounge sound both took off into the

470
00:16:30,389 --> 00:16:27,759
air

471
00:16:31,990 --> 00:16:30,399
wing span larger than i ever want to

472
00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:32,000
imagine at this point

473
00:16:35,590 --> 00:16:33,920
these birds were big enough to carry off

474
00:16:37,990 --> 00:16:35,600
a human being

475
00:16:38,710 --> 00:16:38,000
we could definitely you could definitely

476
00:16:41,990 --> 00:16:38,720
hear it

477
00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:42,000
i mean it was like a whoosh it was me

478
00:16:46,870 --> 00:16:44,240
and my friend marco and there were

479
00:16:47,350 --> 00:16:46,880
two of the birds after they flew off we

480
00:16:50,389 --> 00:16:47,360
kind of

481
00:16:51,269 --> 00:16:50,399
get daddled real quickly then a couple

482
00:16:53,590 --> 00:16:51,279
weeks later we

483
00:16:55,829 --> 00:16:53,600
go back out into the woods i've got a

484
00:16:58,710 --> 00:16:55,839
rafe one he's got a little handgun

485
00:17:00,949 --> 00:16:58,720
you know we think we're badass so we can

486
00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:00,959
we go out to the same tree

487
00:17:04,630 --> 00:17:02,880
and you know there was this branch

488
00:17:07,270 --> 00:17:04,640
freshly broken

489
00:17:09,029 --> 00:17:07,280
same one they were sitting on as big

490
00:17:11,429 --> 00:17:09,039
around as let's say a coffee can

491
00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:11,439
maybe a little bigger snap straight off

492
00:17:15,590 --> 00:17:13,760
the tree like it just broke

493
00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:15,600
that was the last time i went back into

494
00:17:19,750 --> 00:17:17,280
those woods

495
00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:19,760
uh and they've turned into a volkswagen

496
00:17:23,029 --> 00:17:21,360
plant in chattanooga you know i checked

497
00:17:27,029 --> 00:17:23,039
into this place

498
00:17:29,270 --> 00:17:27,039
and uh this immense track of land

499
00:17:31,510 --> 00:17:29,280
where there's a siding occurred was part

500
00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:31,520
of what they called the volunteer army

501
00:17:37,029 --> 00:17:35,200
ammunition plant uh consisting of over

502
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7000 acres

503
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located in the heart of the county

504
00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:42,480
uh the area has always been closed to

505
00:17:46,150 --> 00:17:44,320
the public and heavily guarded

506
00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:46,160
and because of this the area holds a

507
00:17:50,950 --> 00:17:48,640
certain mystique for the residents

508
00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:50,960
the uh it's history stretches to world

509
00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:52,400
war two

510
00:17:55,430 --> 00:17:54,000
when the federal government acquired the

511
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seven thousand acres of

512
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for tnt production employee

513
00:18:02,549 --> 00:18:00,799
employment peaked at around 3 500

514
00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:02,559
workers in production ebbed

515
00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:05,440
and waned over the years and uh it was

516
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you know it's also being used during the

517
00:18:10,990 --> 00:18:07,919
korean and

518
00:18:12,549 --> 00:18:11,000
vietnam wars uh they shut it down in

519
00:18:14,950 --> 00:18:12,559
1977.

520
00:18:17,029 --> 00:18:14,960
now the funny thing about this one of

521
00:18:19,510 --> 00:18:17,039
the most interesting about this is

522
00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:19,520
of course you know you know can you

523
00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:20,160
think

524
00:18:23,430 --> 00:18:21,840
there's some type of connection between

525
00:18:25,430 --> 00:18:23,440
ordinance plants

526
00:18:28,230 --> 00:18:25,440
and flying cryptids and humanoids you

527
00:18:31,350 --> 00:18:28,240
know you you look at point pleasant

528
00:18:33,990 --> 00:18:31,360
and the tnt plant there

529
00:18:35,029 --> 00:18:34,000
uh with the mothman the flying type of

530
00:18:36,789 --> 00:18:35,039
cryptid

531
00:18:38,230 --> 00:18:36,799
and then they saw these things these

532
00:18:39,909 --> 00:18:38,240
giant birds

533
00:18:45,909 --> 00:18:39,919
i'm just wondering if there may be some

534
00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:49,110
i'm pondering sorry pardon my quiet okay

535
00:18:55,510 --> 00:18:52,400
i don't know butch yeah

536
00:18:59,110 --> 00:18:55,520
it could be why not you know

537
00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:59,120
got to keep an open mind yeah i mean

538
00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:01,520
it's um

539
00:19:05,430 --> 00:19:03,520
i don't know i mean you know i i just

540
00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:05,440
thought it was interesting it was a tnt

541
00:19:10,390 --> 00:19:06,240
plant

542
00:19:11,830 --> 00:19:10,400
you know

543
00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:11,840
you weren't allowed to go really

544
00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:13,600
supposed to go back in there now i

545
00:19:19,190 --> 00:19:16,720
i know the tnt plant in point

546
00:19:20,549 --> 00:19:19,200
pleasant i don't know how the security

547
00:19:22,310 --> 00:19:20,559
is there i don't know if you're allowed

548
00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:22,320
to go back there not really

549
00:19:25,590 --> 00:19:23,760
well there's a couple that are abandoned

550
00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:25,600
here in pennsylvania well the one up

551
00:19:30,070 --> 00:19:26,880
here by me

552
00:19:32,150 --> 00:19:30,080
yeah uh the tnt plant i believe is

553
00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:32,160
actually part of the federal prison

554
00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:33,840
land and they use that as part of the

555
00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:35,360
campus there

556
00:19:39,110 --> 00:19:38,240
yeah there's a fence up there uh that

557
00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:39,120
separates the

558
00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:42,240
federal facility from the um the old

559
00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:43,360
military area

560
00:19:46,390 --> 00:19:44,960
i mean there's still a bunch of bunkers

561
00:19:47,510 --> 00:19:46,400
up there most of them are welded ship

562
00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:47,520
but there are a couple that are open

563
00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:49,360
there's quite a few open now people bust

564
00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:50,880
them open and uh

565
00:19:54,549 --> 00:19:52,480
i've been in quite a few of them and

566
00:19:56,549 --> 00:19:54,559
there is a fence and it's not a

567
00:19:58,390 --> 00:19:56,559
it's a fence it's just exactly what it

568
00:20:00,150 --> 00:19:58,400
is like a garden fence that separates

569
00:20:01,990 --> 00:20:00,160
the federal land from the

570
00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:02,000
former town of elvira at least the one

571
00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:03,760
up here guys and uh

572
00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:05,760
it's right next to the in fact there's

573
00:20:09,830 --> 00:20:07,120
the uh

574
00:20:11,750 --> 00:20:09,840
i think it's the washington washington

575
00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:11,760
or washingtonville cemetery which has

576
00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:14,320
like soldiers from the revolutionary war

577
00:20:17,909 --> 00:20:16,799
graves uh there and then it's all just

578
00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:17,919
uh

579
00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:19,600
state game land now but there's three

580
00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:21,360
cemeteries in there

581
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:23,679
uh ruins of an old church from the old

582
00:20:26,950 --> 00:20:25,520
town of elvira and then there's just

583
00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:26,960
hundreds of these bunkers and a couple

584
00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:32,950
that's a strange place up there it has a

585
00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:34,400
lot of activity and you know

586
00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:35,679
a lot of these places they're like

587
00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:37,280
cookie cutter you know you can go to one

588
00:20:41,029 --> 00:20:38,720
ordinance area and go to another and

589
00:20:43,029 --> 00:20:41,039
they're laid out the same

590
00:20:44,950 --> 00:20:43,039
but you know talking to some people you

591
00:20:45,590 --> 00:20:44,960
know why they think that these areas

592
00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:45,600
might be

593
00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:49,200
uh you know just uh concentrated areas

594
00:20:51,909 --> 00:20:50,480
for paranormal activities you think

595
00:20:53,750 --> 00:20:51,919
about it and you talk about energies

596
00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:53,760
these places were made with a

597
00:20:58,310 --> 00:20:56,720
abnormal amount of hate you know these

598
00:21:00,149 --> 00:20:58,320
weren't places that they were built

599
00:21:01,830 --> 00:21:00,159
because they needed a new place to build

600
00:21:02,789 --> 00:21:01,840
bombs they were built in the haste of a

601
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:02,799
war

602
00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:04,559
uh driving people out of their homes

603
00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:06,000
sometimes these lands were taken by

604
00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:07,840
eminent domain at least here in elvira

605
00:21:11,830 --> 00:21:09,760
and the land's never given back

606
00:21:14,830 --> 00:21:11,840
right so there's a lot of animosity and

607
00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:14,840
a lot of negativity surrounding these

608
00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:17,600
uh these places and

609
00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:19,919
if you know who knows what lies

610
00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:21,520
underneath the ground if there's ley

611
00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:22,320
lines or

612
00:21:25,510 --> 00:21:23,760
whatever theories that are out there you

613
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:25,520
know energy is energy and

614
00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:28,640
it finds a way to uh kind of capture and

615
00:21:32,070 --> 00:21:30,400
manifest itself and

616
00:21:33,909 --> 00:21:32,080
they're just not exactly fun places i

617
00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:33,919
know i always get the strangest feeling

618
00:21:37,110 --> 00:21:35,440
when i was at point pleasant i got the

619
00:21:38,789 --> 00:21:37,120
same feeling as when i was in elvira

620
00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:38,799
just a weird creepy

621
00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:41,200
creepy vibe well that and you have all

622
00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:42,480
that whole area you know

623
00:21:46,390 --> 00:21:43,840
you know one time it's all indian

624
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:46,400
country so you know uh you got the

625
00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:48,559
revolutionary uh soldiers buried up

626
00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:48,880
there

627
00:22:00,950 --> 00:21:59,750
it's just a weird place i mean it's it's

628
00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:00,960
pretty neat to visit

629
00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:04,240
and walk around but like you said it's

630
00:22:07,990 --> 00:22:06,080
it's a place that you don't feel real

631
00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:08,000
easy in

632
00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:11,440
you know like so the third hydrogen bomb

633
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:14,159
might be in that bunker

634
00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:15,280
well i'm not going to play around and

635
00:22:18,789 --> 00:22:17,360
find out but no

636
00:22:20,149 --> 00:22:18,799
and you know when you see the great

637
00:22:20,950 --> 00:22:20,159
lengths that people want to break into

638
00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:20,960
those bunkers

639
00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:22,960
i mean you know some had to chip away at

640
00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:24,000
those welds one

641
00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:26,000
there was one there well at least it was

642
00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:27,039
there when i was there i'm

643
00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:28,159
sure it still is where you can see

644
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:30,320
somebody brought a torch

645
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:33,120
they torched it open and i'm thinking

646
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:34,480
what did you think you were gonna find

647
00:22:37,909 --> 00:22:36,000
in there

648
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:37,919
i was also told that the game commission

649
00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:39,039
quarantined six

650
00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:42,320
sick bears in some of them oh yeah

651
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:44,080
yeah i heard that i don't know the

652
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:45,919
validity of that but that's what i

653
00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:48,159
you know if that story's been told to me

654
00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:50,240
uh a lot of ghost sightings at least in

655
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:52,720
the one up here in elvira evps

656
00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:54,720
i have a picture on my personal facebook

657
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:55,760
where i'm nailing in front of a

658
00:23:00,390 --> 00:22:56,880
tombstone

659
00:23:01,990 --> 00:23:00,400
yeah i look up and there's a uh

660
00:23:03,430 --> 00:23:02,000
a light in front of me that's not there

661
00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:03,440
in the picture before it

662
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:05,039
it's really funny call it orbs or

663
00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:06,400
whatever i don't know what it was but it

664
00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:07,760
was kind of neat looking that just its

665
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:08,960
placement is like right there in front

666
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:09,600
of me

667
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:10,880
you can actually see me looking down and

668
00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:12,960
then looking up it's really funny

669
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:14,400
uh i'll show you guys that picture at

670
00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:16,480
some point

671
00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:18,320
there have been some ufo sightings in

672
00:23:22,149 --> 00:23:19,840
that general area

673
00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:22,159
i had i experienced ghost lights out in

674
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:23,840
that area

675
00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:26,720
my old research partner ernie and i went

676
00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:28,559
down that

677
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:30,320
the main road and behind us these set of

678
00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:32,960
headlights appeared and

679
00:23:35,909 --> 00:23:34,400
they just disappeared after a little

680
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:35,919
while we turned around went down all the

681
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:37,200
roads we could to see if there's another

682
00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:40,320
vehicle out there and nothing

683
00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:43,279
it was the weirdest thing maybe some

684
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:44,720
sort of residual you know what i mean

685
00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:45,360
who knows

686
00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:48,320
but uh it it was an interesting place

687
00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:48,559
and

688
00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:54,320
between the ridges of the mountains it's

689
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:55,120
a very

690
00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:57,360
uh at least in elvira uh state game

691
00:24:02,870 --> 00:23:59,840
lanes 252 out here in pennsylvania

692
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:02,880
uh it's a very quiet place at night and

693
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:04,480
it's a lot of fun to be out there and

694
00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:06,320
one night we've had i could go on for a

695
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:07,600
whole show

696
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:09,200
about the different experiences and

697
00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:10,960
phenomena that we've either experienced

698
00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:13,120
or people have experienced out there

699
00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:15,760
it's just a real interesting area it's

700
00:24:22,630 --> 00:24:16,159
just

701
00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:22,640
different yeah i've heard

702
00:24:26,470 --> 00:24:24,400
i've heard you talk about it before yeah

703
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:26,480
it's it's a it's an interesting place

704
00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:30,720
yeah well i guess we ought to

705
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:33,039
talk about our guest here and bring him

706
00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:33,840
on

707
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:37,760
of you have been waiting for and i've

708
00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:38,960
never heard

709
00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:40,880
this gentleman speak so it'll be an

710
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:42,960
interesting show for me

711
00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:44,720
dark waters as he is known by his

712
00:24:47,669 --> 00:24:46,640
listeners and subscribers as a master

713
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,679
storyteller

714
00:24:50,789 --> 00:24:49,360
following the traditions of the greatest

715
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:50,799
oral narrators

716
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:52,640
dark waters combination of southern

717
00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:54,559
vernacular and true encounters

718
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,799
create a unique gumbo of realistic yet

719
00:24:59,830 --> 00:24:58,240
entertaining content

720
00:25:01,909 --> 00:24:59,840
his down-to-earth mannerisms and

721
00:25:02,149 --> 00:25:01,919
personality has led him to appearances

722
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:02,159
on

723
00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:04,799
coast-to-coast am darkness radio and

724
00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:07,039
many other paranormal talk shows

725
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:09,039
dark waters is quickly becoming a fan

726
00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:10,880
favorite in the horror and paranormal

727
00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:12,159
world and we're glad that he's going to

728
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:13,120
be joining us

729
00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:14,720
here in just a couple moments so it's

730
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:16,240
going to be a little quiet here so sit

731
00:25:19,029 --> 00:25:16,559
back

732
00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:19,039
relax enjoy the quiet as we go to bring

733
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:20,880
you some dark water stay tuned folks all

734
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:22,080
right folks we're back

735
00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:26,159
sean lon butch and our guest tonight

736
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,960
mr dark waters so dw we were talking a

737
00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:30,720
little bit offline there and we're

738
00:25:33,909 --> 00:25:32,559
really glad you joined us tonight really

739
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:33,919
excited that uh

740
00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:35,840
why don't you just give us a brief uh

741
00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:37,279
intro to our listeners who don't know

742
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:40,720
you and get into some dogman stories

743
00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:42,720
sure awesome first of all i want to say

744
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:44,159
thank you for allowing me the

745
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:45,279
opportunity

746
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:46,799
to kind of share some time with the

747
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:48,240
audience and i want to show your

748
00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:50,480
audiences my intention to scare them

749
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:52,159
it really is i want them to not be able

750
00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:54,240
to sleep tonight um

751
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:56,320
that is always my intention is to scare

752
00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:57,360
the audience

753
00:26:01,750 --> 00:26:00,159
every time i speak and just to tell you

754
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:01,760
guys a little bit about myself

755
00:26:05,190 --> 00:26:03,360
um i was born and raised here in new

756
00:26:08,789 --> 00:26:05,200
orleans where i am right now

757
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:08,799
um as a kid i had several paranormal

758
00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:10,000
experiences things that

759
00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:12,720
kind of made me aware of what was going

760
00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:13,840
on

761
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:16,720
um the dark waters channel itself

762
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:17,840
started in

763
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:20,720
i said november of last year yeah i

764
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:22,480
think it was november of last year

765
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:25,039
and so far the goal and the objective

766
00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:25,679
has been

767
00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:29,039
just simply to share the stories of

768
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:31,039
other people who've had similar

769
00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:33,360
paranormal encounters as myself

770
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:36,960
um i do that through audio uh format

771
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:39,600
where for example someone tells me a

772
00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:41,919
story i make an audio dramatization of

773
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:42,159
it

774
00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:45,600
audio book or

775
00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:47,600
like you're listening to a movie the

776
00:26:51,909 --> 00:26:48,960
whole purpose of what i do

777
00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:51,919
is to take one individual who didn't

778
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:52,640
have the

779
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:54,720
encounter and place them in the same

780
00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:56,960
environment place them in the same

781
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:59,120
uh mind state as the person who did have

782
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:00,640
the encounter that way we all

783
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:02,799
share the same encounter and once we all

784
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:04,720
start sharing these same encounters

785
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:07,760
our minds open up to you know reminds

786
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:09,200
really open up to helping other people

787
00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:10,720
who may have had some kind of

788
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:13,360
strange and weird and freaky encounter

789
00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:14,640
um

790
00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:16,400
we've been growing rapidly as a dark

791
00:27:19,750 --> 00:27:18,000
waters family and i call it

792
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:19,760
uh and after this i'll go into some

793
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:21,279
dogman stuff but i want to make this

794
00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:22,320
point

795
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:24,720
essentially what we do at that's

796
00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:25,760
different from

797
00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:28,640
other youtube channels um is that the

798
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:29,840
average youtube

799
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:32,640
horror narrator number one they won't

800
00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:34,080
speak to any of their

801
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:36,799
subscribers that's the first thing um

802
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:37,840
the average

803
00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:41,679
show host on youtube

804
00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:43,039
they don't speak to their subscribers

805
00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:45,279
they kind of speak to a guest and

806
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:48,240
um post it and then try and monetize it

807
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:48,880
well what we

808
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:50,720
what we really the reason why we oh my

809
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:52,720
goodness the reason why we are family

810
00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:56,080
is because i'm one of the few youtubers

811
00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:56,880
who

812
00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:59,440
actually have a way for subscribers to

813
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:00,480
talk to him

814
00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:03,120
and or do you talk to each subscriber

815
00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:04,480
i've talked to probably out of ten

816
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:05,919
thousand i've probably talked to about a

817
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:07,120
thousand people

818
00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:10,799
um i talked to about 15 to 20 people a

819
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:11,679
week

820
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:15,520
um and what that does is it allows me to

821
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:16,960
connect with people in a whole another

822
00:28:19,510 --> 00:28:18,000
manner

823
00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:19,520
it allows me to connect with their lives

824
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:21,039
in another way so

825
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:23,440
every time i tell a story the stories

826
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:24,480
are compelling not

827
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:27,600
because of the dog man or because of the

828
00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:29,600
big foot or because of the black eyed

829
00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:30,240
kids

830
00:28:33,430 --> 00:28:32,240
the stories are compelling because i

831
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:33,440
spend so much time

832
00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:35,679
planning out and figuring out how it

833
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:37,440
affects that individual

834
00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:39,679
um and i said this over and over and

835
00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:40,480
over again

836
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:42,320
it's very difficult to relate to a dog

837
00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:43,440
man because we don't know what they

838
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:45,360
think we can't run in their pack

839
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:47,600
um we're not a seven foot tall walking

840
00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:49,360
werewolf it's just nearly impossible to

841
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:50,640
relate to that

842
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:53,039
but we can relate to each other and so

843
00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:54,720
if lion is talking to me about

844
00:28:58,389 --> 00:28:56,480
how he saw dog man and how it made him

845
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:58,399
feel yeah

846
00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:00,000
i can't really focus on dogma i can

847
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:02,159
focus online and then once lion explains

848
00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:04,000
to me the emotions he felt and the fear

849
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:04,880
that he felt

850
00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:09,200
makes for the great story because it's

851
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:10,880
very easy to find out about dog man

852
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:12,000
that's this is a very popular

853
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:13,279
topic right now you know it really

854
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:15,760
really is but uh

855
00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:18,080
relaying the story is about the person

856
00:29:22,230 --> 00:29:18,799
so

857
00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:22,240
how i came into the whole

858
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:25,360
dog man um the concept of dog

859
00:29:29,029 --> 00:29:27,600
and learning about the very very very

860
00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:29,039
first time

861
00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:32,159
i um was told the story about dogman

862
00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:33,600
was right around the time when i was

863
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:35,200
starting doing interviews for the

864
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:36,080
channel

865
00:29:40,070 --> 00:29:39,520
i have a friend of mine who is an ex-dea

866
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:40,080
agent

867
00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:43,360
um he lived in san diego he owns a cigar

868
00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:44,399
shop down here

869
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:46,640
he and i are at that cigar shop talking

870
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:48,000
smoking cigars

871
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:50,000
hanging out and he's telling me a story

872
00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:51,360
about

873
00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:52,799
which is actually a great story i never

874
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:54,320
even told it but he's telling me a story

875
00:29:56,950 --> 00:29:54,799
about

876
00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:56,960
the first time they raided the house and

877
00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:58,799
how the other people didn't clear the

878
00:30:01,990 --> 00:30:00,640
room right and he found the gun

879
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:02,000
you know there was an extra guy in the

880
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:03,279
house they didn't clear the house right

881
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:04,960
the guy had a gun to his head right

882
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,720
so he's telling me that story we're

883
00:30:10,149 --> 00:30:08,399
laughing you know which wasn't really

884
00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:10,159
funny but here my he and i are crazy so

885
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:11,440
we're laughing smoking

886
00:30:16,389 --> 00:30:14,640
a guy sitting across from us um and the

887
00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:16,399
best way to describe him

888
00:30:20,830 --> 00:30:19,279
the look he had was if you ever seen the

889
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:20,840
movie expendables

890
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:24,480
and uh honors not on a schwarzenegger

891
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:26,640
sylvester stallone in that movie that

892
00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:28,880
kind of chiseled hard look

893
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:30,720
that i got killed people for a living

894
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:32,720
type look that's the look he had now

895
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:34,320
he didn't have all the tattoos he had a

896
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:36,480
few tattoos but just to look in his eye

897
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:38,159
was this kind of

898
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:40,240
cold dead look he was just sitting there

899
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:41,279
smoking

900
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:44,399
and he says hey are you paying people

901
00:30:47,350 --> 00:30:45,840
for their stories

902
00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:47,360
and i said no i'm not paying you for

903
00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:48,559
your story i said but if you want to

904
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:49,520
share a story

905
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:51,760
i'll buy you a cigar and i'm being slick

906
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:53,440
because i can get my cigars free so i'm

907
00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:55,760
like i'm gonna go get him a free cigar

908
00:30:59,350 --> 00:30:58,000
and i was i was being sick i'm like i'm

909
00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:59,360
gonna get him a free cigar

910
00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:00,640
i'm gonna give him a cigar he's gonna

911
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:02,720
tell me the story so we after a quick

912
00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:04,080
negotiation where he gets

913
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:06,720
two cigars for his story i walk over the

914
00:31:09,110 --> 00:31:08,159
cigars come back and we sit down and

915
00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:09,120
start talking

916
00:31:12,549 --> 00:31:10,399
he's like well you're not gonna believe

917
00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:12,559
this story i said trust me i believe you

918
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:15,679
you just need to talk to me and he

919
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:17,600
starts going into how he was an army

920
00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:18,320
ranger

921
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:21,919
and how um when he retired he worked for

922
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:24,559
a couple of contracting companies that

923
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:24,960
kind of

924
00:31:28,149 --> 00:31:26,880
pretty much you know like the blackwater

925
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:28,159
type people and all those type of

926
00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:28,880
companies

927
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:31,039
i don't recall it for sure what was that

928
00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:32,559
if the real name of it was blackwater

929
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:33,679
but i think it was one of the

930
00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:35,200
agencies i don't think it was blackwater

931
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:36,880
but he worked for one of those companies

932
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:39,120
after he retired out of the military

933
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:42,320
and he's going fishing

934
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,000
uh the neighborhood he's going fishing

935
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:46,480
in is out in new orleans he had a a real

936
00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:48,320
good fishing spot that was by bayou

937
00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:50,320
survivage wildlife refuge

938
00:31:53,350 --> 00:31:52,640
which is out in new orleans east right

939
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:53,360
before you leave

940
00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:56,399
out of the city on i-10 heading eastward

941
00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:59,279
it's just this preserve that's

942
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:00,320
surrounded by

943
00:32:04,630 --> 00:32:03,440
levees and i guess they made it a refuge

944
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:04,640
i don't know i don't know why they did

945
00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:05,679
it i don't know what's going on but

946
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:07,120
anyway if he's out there

947
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:10,240
in the paint the scene for you guys

948
00:32:13,509 --> 00:32:12,000
the way the levees work in new orleans

949
00:32:15,509 --> 00:32:13,519
is they're about

950
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:15,519
10 to 12 feet tall and they're for flood

951
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:18,240
protection but in this particular area

952
00:32:21,909 --> 00:32:19,760
if you're standing on a levee to the

953
00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:21,919
right there's a swamp kind of

954
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:24,399
marshy wetlands and then to the left

955
00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:26,080
there's lake pontchartrain which is the

956
00:32:30,149 --> 00:32:28,159
lake that pretty much is the

957
00:32:31,509 --> 00:32:30,159
outskirts of new orleans right people

958
00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:31,519
know new orleans is a bowl

959
00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:33,440
well that lake pontchartrain is one of

960
00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:34,720
the portions over there making the boat

961
00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:35,519
then we have

962
00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:37,679
the mississippi river which is kind of

963
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:38,960
wraps around the city

964
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:41,039
which makes it the other part of it um

965
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,080
the other

966
00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:44,799
flowing water around the city right so

967
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:46,000
he's there

968
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:47,440
it's three or four o'clock in the

969
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:49,600
morning he's headed out and he starts

970
00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:50,080
heading

971
00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:53,200
two miles down this levee to where he's

972
00:32:57,669 --> 00:32:55,120
gonna go fishing

973
00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:57,679
walking having fun he told me he vividly

974
00:33:01,269 --> 00:32:58,559
described

975
00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:01,279
this light fog that was there and how as

976
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:03,120
the sun came up the light frog started

977
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:04,000
to burn off

978
00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:05,440
and he was like man i just knew i was

979
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:07,039
gonna catch me some fish

980
00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:09,840
and so he's out fishing on the bottom of

981
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:11,679
the left-hand side of the levee

982
00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:14,080
where leading to the lake side not the

983
00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:15,760
swamp side is a train track

984
00:33:19,509 --> 00:33:18,159
so he went down the levee crossed over

985
00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:19,519
the train track

986
00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:21,679
and then there were these rocks and

987
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:23,679
little things that you can sit on and

988
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:26,159
cast lines out into the water so he's on

989
00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:26,880
the

990
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:33,279
doing what he's doing

991
00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:36,559
well he's been there for a little while

992
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:38,720
and he starts to see the train coming

993
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:39,840
down the track

994
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:41,360
and everybody who knows new wallets

995
00:33:45,190 --> 00:33:43,279
knows new orleans is a port city so

996
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:45,200
we got trains coming in we got boats

997
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:46,480
coming in we got all kind of

998
00:33:50,470 --> 00:33:49,120
stuff coming into this city right and

999
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:50,480
the trains coming down the track he

1000
00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:52,000
decides he does not want to

1001
00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:55,039
get trapped between the water and train

1002
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:58,799
so he descends back up the levee and

1003
00:34:01,909 --> 00:34:00,720
goes to light a cigar on his way up this

1004
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:01,919
12-foot levee

1005
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:04,320
when he gets to the top as he's you know

1006
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:06,320
taking his puff over his cigar

1007
00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:08,639
he gets this kind of weird feeling like

1008
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:10,000
man something's wrong

1009
00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:12,480
and this guy's a trained fighter um i

1010
00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:13,919
mean trained military guys who means

1011
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:15,119
he's a trained fighter which means he's

1012
00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:16,079
a trained killer because

1013
00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:17,839
that's what our military do for a living

1014
00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:19,760
they kill people and he just gets the

1015
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:22,000
spider sense that something's wrong

1016
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:23,440
starts looking around and he looks to

1017
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:26,320
his right in that swappy wetland area

1018
00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:28,399
and he sees what he thought was a bear

1019
00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:29,839
in the water because he's like man looks

1020
00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:30,960
like a bear

1021
00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:32,320
the description was hey it looked like

1022
00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:34,240
it was a bear or something swimming in

1023
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:35,119
the water

1024
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:36,720
and so he said he's looking at it it's

1025
00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:38,960
black and it's kind of moving and then

1026
00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:41,440
he said he sees this arm in his claw

1027
00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:42,800
come out of the water he's like yo

1028
00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:44,800
that's not a bear bears don't you know

1029
00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:45,599
have

1030
00:34:51,030 --> 00:34:49,280
biceps and forearms and he's kind of

1031
00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:51,040
staring at it freaking out

1032
00:34:54,149 --> 00:34:53,520
and then it sees him and it makes a

1033
00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:54,159
beeline

1034
00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:55,919
out of the swamp waters like betty was

1035
00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:57,839
swimming in and starts coming over

1036
00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:58,640
towards him

1037
00:35:02,230 --> 00:35:00,160
and as he's watching this thing come up

1038
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,240
out of the water and you can actually

1039
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:04,560
google earth this location and you'll

1040
00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:06,240
see it um

1041
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:08,079
and i'd rarely do this but then because

1042
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:09,200
people are crazy and they'll go out

1043
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:10,240
there and try and find this thing and

1044
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:11,119
get eaten

1045
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:13,760
but they do and we're going to talk

1046
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:14,640
about that next

1047
00:35:19,430 --> 00:35:17,760
um yeah it's coming out of the water and

1048
00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:19,440
it comes up and he's still standing

1049
00:35:21,829 --> 00:35:21,280
there and now the train is barreling

1050
00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:21,839
down

1051
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:23,440
and so he's on he's on top of the levee

1052
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:25,040
to the left there's a train coming

1053
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:27,520
there's this thing standing there and it

1054
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:29,680
kind of looks at him and growls

1055
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:31,760
and he's like man this is a he this is a

1056
00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:34,079
werewolf it's like a big walking

1057
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:36,400
werewolf because it's now on two legs

1058
00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:37,760
staying in there black in the

1059
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:39,520
description of the black that he gave me

1060
00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:39,920
because

1061
00:35:43,589 --> 00:35:41,520
this is one of the very first stories so

1062
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:43,599
i was very very very particular about

1063
00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:44,800
all the questions acts

1064
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:47,119
i'm nowhere near that particular as i am

1065
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:48,079
now because at the

1066
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:49,440
that point time i really didn't believe

1067
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:50,720
this guy i was like oh you're losing

1068
00:35:52,630 --> 00:35:51,760
your mind bro you didn't see the

1069
00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:52,640
werewolf right

1070
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:54,640
so the description on the black he gave

1071
00:35:58,950 --> 00:35:56,560
me was jet black

1072
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,960
so black that it seemed to absorb the

1073
00:36:02,069 --> 00:36:00,560
little bit of sunlight that was shining

1074
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:02,079
on it and i was like really

1075
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:04,000
he's like yeah it was just just dark

1076
00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:06,320
nasty like dark black like a void black

1077
00:36:09,510 --> 00:36:07,839
and i was like well okay

1078
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:09,520
so the train's coming this thing's

1079
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:10,880
standing there growling

1080
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:12,160
and he says well i'm going to put the

1081
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:14,160
train between me and it

1082
00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:16,800
cuts down the levee away from it jumps

1083
00:36:19,589 --> 00:36:18,160
over the tracks

1084
00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:19,599
literally leaps from the bottom of levy

1085
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:21,839
over the tracks within a few

1086
00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:24,000
seconds after he leaks across the train

1087
00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:24,960
passes

1088
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,640
and he goes to his cooler and he goes

1089
00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:28,079
and gets his weapon

1090
00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:29,680
and now he feels comfortable because

1091
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:31,440
he's put the train between him and his

1092
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:32,240
creature

1093
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:34,079
but as you know the train is a temporary

1094
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:35,839
solution so

1095
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:38,000
he starts to work his way up the truck i

1096
00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:39,280
mean up there

1097
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:41,119
up the track alongside of the train

1098
00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:43,440
where he's literally jogging

1099
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:44,800
back towards the direction where he

1100
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:47,040
parked his car and he's like okay

1101
00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:49,200
i got a little protection the train is

1102
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:50,800
between me and this creature

1103
00:36:54,069 --> 00:36:53,440
and so he's jogging along the side now i

1104
00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:54,079
went to this

1105
00:36:57,270 --> 00:36:55,839
location and visited there's a video

1106
00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:57,280
that kind of shows

1107
00:37:01,510 --> 00:36:59,760
uh on my channel that shows the location

1108
00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:01,520
so the space in between where that

1109
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:02,240
training

1110
00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:06,160
is passing the train tracks in the water

1111
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:09,520
is right at about 13 feet not a whole

1112
00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:10,480
lot of space right

1113
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:13,280
and then there are spaces where the the

1114
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:14,560
rocks that are sitting

1115
00:37:17,589 --> 00:37:16,400
kind of like a natural barrier rocks

1116
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:17,599
that are sitting on the water it's not

1117
00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:18,320
like a beach

1118
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:20,320
it's like these huge kind of gravel

1119
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:21,520
rocks that are there

1120
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:23,040
there's spaces where these rocks kind of

1121
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:24,560
protrude back in

1122
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:26,720
and it closes down so this guy's running

1123
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:28,400
literally running next to a train and he

1124
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:29,760
chose to run next to the train as

1125
00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:31,359
opposed to face this thing

1126
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:32,960
at any point in time if he trips and

1127
00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:34,720
falls he's gonna get

1128
00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:36,000
stumbled into the train and get rolled

1129
00:37:39,750 --> 00:37:38,240
over but he doesn't he runs next to the

1130
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:39,760
train as long as he can

1131
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:41,520
and he's looking back and finally he

1132
00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:43,200
sees that he's only got about

1133
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:46,560
10 train cars left and he stops to catch

1134
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:47,680
his breath and he says

1135
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:49,680
and this is his exact words he told me

1136
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:51,280
he said i needed to make a decision at

1137
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:52,640
that point in time

1138
00:37:56,790 --> 00:37:55,040
um about my life and i needed to come to

1139
00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:56,800
a decision about what i was willing to

1140
00:38:01,030 --> 00:37:57,359
do

1141
00:38:02,710 --> 00:38:01,040
was like well when you're about to face

1142
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:02,720
a moment of danger like that he's like

1143
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:04,079
that thing was dangerous there's no

1144
00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:04,800
doubt about it

1145
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:06,720
he said you really have to go dark and i

1146
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:08,320
was like what do you mean by go dawg

1147
00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:11,599
my other friend who was a dea agent and

1148
00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:13,599
part fbi he already understood what the

1149
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:15,040
guy meant he was like yeah

1150
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:16,640
you really need to go dark at a time

1151
00:38:19,109 --> 00:38:18,160
like this i'm like god tell me what it

1152
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:19,119
means to go dark

1153
00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:21,119
and it was like you just don't care what

1154
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:22,400
happens next

1155
00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:24,240
and whatever you make up in your mind

1156
00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:26,079
that you're surviving what's coming

1157
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,520
and you don't care what happens you

1158
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:29,599
don't care about if you lose a leg you

1159
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:30,960
don't care if you lose an arm you don't

1160
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:32,800
care if you see your family again

1161
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:34,160
only thing that matters is what's

1162
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:36,320
happening in the moment right now and so

1163
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:38,320
he made that decision and as the last

1164
00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:40,079
last train car passed

1165
00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:41,760
he went straight up the lever and he

1166
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:43,359
angled towards where he thought it would

1167
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:45,119
be he didn't go up the levee and

1168
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:46,880
go away from me he went looking for it

1169
00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:48,800
he went towards it and when he got back

1170
00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:50,000
to the top of the levee

1171
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:52,720
he didn't see anything nothing at all

1172
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:53,760
well

1173
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:55,599
he looks back he's not too far from his

1174
00:38:59,750 --> 00:38:57,520
car so of course

1175
00:39:00,870 --> 00:38:59,760
nothing's there he starts hauling behind

1176
00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:00,880
back to the car

1177
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:02,640
as he's running to the car he gets his

1178
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:04,640
car and he stumbles i

1179
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:06,000
think in the story i kind of described

1180
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:07,920
it as it was cool where he slid

1181
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:10,720
but he stumbles and he realizes that

1182
00:39:14,230 --> 00:39:12,720
he's already left his keys

1183
00:39:17,349 --> 00:39:14,240
back in his cooler so he takes his

1184
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:17,359
weapon bashes the window of the car open

1185
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:18,800
goes in the glove apartment gets his

1186
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:20,640
extra key when he's coming out

1187
00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:22,480
and kind of you know how you open your

1188
00:39:25,829 --> 00:39:24,720
door your head is in you put your legs

1189
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:25,839
out but you're not sitting

1190
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:27,200
when he pulls his head back out to

1191
00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:29,440
rearrange his body to sit in

1192
00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:32,800
he sees it again and it's there standing

1193
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:34,960
right at the edge of the um the swamp

1194
00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:36,000
kind of tree line

1195
00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:38,000
near the swamp and it's looking at him

1196
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:39,040
then steps out

1197
00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:41,520
and it shows itself completely into the

1198
00:39:44,069 --> 00:39:42,320
open

1199
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:44,079
and it hunches kind of down like it's

1200
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:45,520
getting ready to run

1201
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:46,960
and at that point in time he hopped in

1202
00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:48,240
the car cranked it up and started

1203
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:49,760
reversing his way back out of that

1204
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:51,280
now here's the crazy thing if anyone

1205
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:53,599
ever went to that location like i have

1206
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:56,400
you're on top of the 12-foot levee your

1207
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:58,160
car is caught on top

1208
00:40:01,510 --> 00:40:00,960
so you have to back out of there right

1209
00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:01,520
and

1210
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:04,480
so he has to back his vehicle down this

1211
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:05,040
narrow

1212
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:07,280
12-foot levee at the top of it until he

1213
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:08,880
gets down to the part of the road where

1214
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:10,400
it kind of slopes down and he can spin

1215
00:40:14,069 --> 00:40:11,680
around and turn around

1216
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:14,079
well according to him as he was backing

1217
00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:15,760
out this thing was running towards him

1218
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:17,359
he would glance and see it running and

1219
00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:19,040
it was closing in on him and he got to a

1220
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:19,359
point

1221
00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:21,280
where he could spin his vehicle he spun

1222
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:22,400
his car and

1223
00:40:25,829 --> 00:40:24,400
mashed out of there and drove away and

1224
00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:25,839
when he looked in the rearview mirror it

1225
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:27,280
was standing there just looking at him

1226
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:27,680
like

1227
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:30,160
you lucky you got away from me so that

1228
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:32,160
was the first dog man story

1229
00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:35,920
that i was told um that very first story

1230
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:38,720
i did it um and it i used a computer

1231
00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:40,000
kind of this british

1232
00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:42,800
voice to to to do the story because at

1233
00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:44,079
that point in time

1234
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:46,160
i was like uh i just want to see how

1235
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:48,000
these stories are and how i take this

1236
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,200
person's encounter

1237
00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:51,599
and bring it to life and so i did that

1238
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:53,520
and it turned out to be pretty decent

1239
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:56,000
um and actually some of my best work is

1240
00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:58,240
the very first work that i've done

1241
00:41:01,670 --> 00:40:59,680
it's just that the computer voice people

1242
00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:01,680
don't like the computer voices at all

1243
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:04,319
well that's the first time there's uh

1244
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,440
dog man i didn't

1245
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:07,680
still didn't really believe in dog man i

1246
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:09,200
believed him

1247
00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:12,240
i can't really judge dog man because

1248
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:14,319
i don't know dog man but i know people

1249
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:16,400
right my background has taught me

1250
00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:18,400
to have this profound understanding of

1251
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:20,240
people and i have a guess with making

1252
00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:22,000
people comfortable or gifts with making

1253
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:23,680
uh people being able to communicate with

1254
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:24,240
people

1255
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:28,240
and that man wasn't lying to me

1256
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:30,319
i mean he wasn't i mean during the

1257
00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:32,079
conversation there are these points when

1258
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:33,440
you talk to some people

1259
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:35,920
but with him during these conversations

1260
00:41:40,470 --> 00:41:37,680
there's these pauses

1261
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:40,480
there's these points where you know this

1262
00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:42,480
man with this hard exterior which i know

1263
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:43,440
probably could have reached over and

1264
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:45,440
snapped my neck at any point in time

1265
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:48,240
he he breaks and you see him breaking

1266
00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:50,240
like you physically see

1267
00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:52,560
him emotionally breaking and i'm like

1268
00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:54,480
wow something really happened to this

1269
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:55,359
guy you know

1270
00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:58,560
and that's the beauty of that's the

1271
00:42:02,710 --> 00:41:59,680
beauty of

1272
00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:02,720
um understanding human nature right um

1273
00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:04,400
there are these things that happen to us

1274
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:06,319
these traumatic experiences that happen

1275
00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:07,200
to us and these

1276
00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:09,040
bad things that happen to us although

1277
00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:10,319
they are bad

1278
00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:12,720
um although some of them are terrible i

1279
00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:13,599
believe that

1280
00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:14,720
everything that we go through we go

1281
00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:15,599
through for somebody else not

1282
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:16,720
necessarily us

1283
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:18,480
and he was very brave for sharing that

1284
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:21,280
story because what he did was he sent me

1285
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:22,720
along the path of

1286
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:25,839
really investigating dog man and finding

1287
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:27,040
out what it is

1288
00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:28,400
and eventually coming to my own

1289
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:30,160
conclusions and then

1290
00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:31,920
stop and then after i came to my

1291
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:33,200
conclusions now i'm no longer really

1292
00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:35,280
concerned about dogman whatsoever

1293
00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:38,000
um not because i don't think it's real

1294
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:39,040
or not because i don't think it's a

1295
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:40,160
threat but

1296
00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:41,760
after you have a certain level of

1297
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:44,000
understanding of what something is

1298
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:46,720
then there's no you can't go any further

1299
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:47,200
right

1300
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:48,640
unless you want to go out and try and

1301
00:42:52,950 --> 00:42:50,800
find it and go out and try and hunt it

1302
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,960
which i'm not interested in that so

1303
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:54,480
second story

1304
00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:55,920
and if i'm talking too much guys let me

1305
00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:57,280
know i will do this to you all night

1306
00:43:01,589 --> 00:42:59,359
long so cut me off bro

1307
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:01,599
i did want to ask you one thing though

1308
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:03,040
this uh now this

1309
00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:07,280
do you think this was uh

1310
00:43:13,589 --> 00:43:11,119
a werewolf dog man upgrade k9

1311
00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:13,599
uh supernatural what what do you think

1312
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:14,800
it was

1313
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:17,839
okay so that's a great question lon

1314
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:21,280
because i have this i'm not as technical

1315
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:22,800
with my terminology right

1316
00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:24,880
to me when i say werewolf dog man it's

1317
00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:26,160
all the same it's

1318
00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:29,440
a upright walking canine creature

1319
00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:31,359
whether it's like the type one type two

1320
00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:32,079
type three

1321
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:33,680
okay don't matter to me because it's

1322
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:35,359
freaky to me regardless of what it looks

1323
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:36,240
like if it's

1324
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:38,000
if it's the dog man it looks like sting

1325
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:40,000
on a movie dog so just that's freaky

1326
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:41,440
if it's the one that looks like the

1327
00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:43,280
beast of seven shoots which is like a

1328
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:45,599
bigfoot with a dog head that's freaky

1329
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:47,200
if it's the super soldier one that

1330
00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:49,040
people have uh pictures of

1331
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:51,040
looks like a bodybuilder with extremely

1332
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:53,440
long head all of it's freaky to me so

1333
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:56,079
when i tell my stories and also the

1334
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:56,560
other one

1335
00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:58,000
if it's the one that looks like the

1336
00:44:00,950 --> 00:44:00,000
werewolf from london which these are all

1337
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:00,960
the descriptions

1338
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:03,920
that i've had from people when they tell

1339
00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:04,960
me stories

1340
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:07,760
and i haven't nowhere near touched on

1341
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:09,440
like i stopped doing dogman stories and

1342
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:10,800
nowhere near touchdown all of them i

1343
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:11,440
have

1344
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:14,240
so in this particular case here's what i

1345
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:15,040
believe

1346
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:19,119
supernatural manifestation of anything

1347
00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:20,640
it wasn't like a ghost dog

1348
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:22,319
it wasn't anything supernatural it was

1349
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:24,640
an animal um

1350
00:44:31,829 --> 00:44:28,640
from what i understand it was the uh

1351
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:31,839
it was the the bigfoot big

1352
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:35,760
monstrous walking on this pine hocks on

1353
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:36,960
behind legs

1354
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:38,880
except it was real furry it was it

1355
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:40,560
didn't have short hair it had longer

1356
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:41,839
black hair

1357
00:44:46,630 --> 00:44:44,960
um and that's what it was

1358
00:44:48,069 --> 00:44:46,640
he wouldn't lie to me i talked to this

1359
00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:48,079
guy to this day

1360
00:44:51,349 --> 00:44:49,599
he just that's just not the cough the

1361
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:51,359
cloth he's cut from and here's another

1362
00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:52,240
thing that people

1363
00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:53,599
and i'm so glad i get an opportunity to

1364
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,599
say some of these things there's a lot

1365
00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:57,440
always been a lot of questions about oh

1366
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:58,480
well how do you

1367
00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:59,760
how do you know someone's telling you

1368
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:01,520
the truth um

1369
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:04,000
that story i did in like november or

1370
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:05,440
december of last year i've talked to

1371
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:06,880
that man

1372
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:09,520
quite often since then i would say

1373
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:11,440
probably once a week just to check in on

1374
00:45:13,190 --> 00:45:11,760
him

1375
00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:13,200
this is he can't see how things are

1376
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:15,599
going and he checks in on me

1377
00:45:19,349 --> 00:45:17,599
so i don't talk to his wife you know

1378
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:19,359
i've talked to his father

1379
00:45:22,870 --> 00:45:21,280
i talked to their family you know and

1380
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:22,880
that and this is how come

1381
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:24,800
i'm able to i'm comfortable with sharing

1382
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:26,480
these stories because the people who i

1383
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:27,280
talk to they're not

1384
00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:29,440
only just witnesses they end up becoming

1385
00:45:31,829 --> 00:45:30,480
friends in a certain way

1386
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:31,839
now of course i get a couple of crazy

1387
00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:33,200
people who want to be my friend because

1388
00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:33,520
they're

1389
00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:35,119
like oh you're a celebrity i'm like no

1390
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:36,560
i'm a crazy guy from new orleans who

1391
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:37,680
sits on the porch and

1392
00:45:41,589 --> 00:45:40,160
tells stories with a 45 handgun while

1393
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:41,599
he's telling the story but

1394
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:44,640
um that's how come i'm comfortable

1395
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:46,000
sharing these stories because you

1396
00:45:49,510 --> 00:45:47,760
if you really spend time talking to the

1397
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:49,520
person who had the encounter

1398
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:51,040
and you care about them and not the

1399
00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:52,640
cryptid or not the

1400
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:55,200
dog man or not those ghosts then you

1401
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:56,880
really get to the bottom of what's going

1402
00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:57,680
on because

1403
00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:59,599
you know you really find out what's

1404
00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:01,040
going on with that person

1405
00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:03,599
and you really really do so the second

1406
00:46:08,309 --> 00:46:04,160
dogman

1407
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:08,319
story is came through me to me

1408
00:46:12,829 --> 00:46:10,160
from a guy named skip and that everybody

1409
00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:12,839
heard the story he loved this one

1410
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:16,400
um a gentleman i've known for

1411
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:20,160
let's say 12 13 years named david dunbar

1412
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:21,680
which he really doesn't like the fact

1413
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:22,880
that i put his name out there but he was

1414
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:24,000
subscribing he had to get

1415
00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:26,480
he's got to deal with it but david and i

1416
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:28,240
had a conversation about dog man he was

1417
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:28,960
like hey

1418
00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:30,480
i got a friend of mine that works for a

1419
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:32,960
power company in mississippi

1420
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:36,079
who actually really really did have an

1421
00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:38,400
encounter with these dog men and i was

1422
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:40,319
like look why don't you talk to him

1423
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:44,079
let's get together and um let me and him

1424
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:44,880
skype

1425
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:47,599
and find out what happened so it took a

1426
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:49,119
couple of days to get this guy to feel

1427
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:50,480
comfortable to talk to me

1428
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:52,400
and once we started talking he shared

1429
00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:54,720
this story with me about

1430
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:57,680
how there was a power outage in uh on

1431
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:59,200
old taylor road outside of taylor

1432
00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:00,319
mississippi

1433
00:47:03,349 --> 00:47:02,079
and he and i this is a long story so

1434
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:03,359
i'll kind of surmise it

1435
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:05,440
and leave and take the focal points from

1436
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:07,040
it but

1437
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:09,280
um he's out there and he's in a bucket

1438
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:10,960
truck working on a distribution line

1439
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:12,560
anybody who knows what the distribution

1440
00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:14,079
line is there's like a transmission line

1441
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:16,400
which is the huge power lines that run

1442
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:17,520
back and forth then there's a

1443
00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:18,880
distribution line which is the ones that

1444
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:19,599
kind of

1445
00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:21,359
run through cities and along roadways

1446
00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:23,599
right well he's out there working on a

1447
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:24,880
distribution line

1448
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:27,760
and it's getting dark he's up in a

1449
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:28,640
bucket truck

1450
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:31,040
it turns dark and he starts to hear

1451
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:32,000
these noises

1452
00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:35,359
in the woods around him and if you ever

1453
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:36,960
seen a guy working at night on a

1454
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:38,319
distribution line on

1455
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:40,240
on a truck that's after the storm

1456
00:47:44,470 --> 00:47:43,040
they're elevated about 20 to 23 feet in

1457
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:44,480
the air

1458
00:47:48,549 --> 00:47:46,000
normally they're changing the insulators

1459
00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:48,559
on the line or the ground wire at the

1460
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:48,960
top

1461
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:52,079
one of those things right so they're up

1462
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:53,680
in the air but they have these lights on

1463
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:54,480
their buckets

1464
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,240
and it's a work light it's just a light

1465
00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:58,240
that kind of lets you see what's

1466
00:48:01,430 --> 00:48:00,480
going on what you have in front of you

1467
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:01,440
and lets you see

1468
00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:03,040
you know what you need and blah blah

1469
00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:05,359
blah so he's up there in this truck it's

1470
00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:07,359
elevated the arm is elevated up

1471
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:10,480
to about 22 23 feet when he starts

1472
00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:12,640
hearing these noises around him in the

1473
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:13,760
woods

1474
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:15,359
and then he starts hearing this

1475
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:17,760
breathing around him in the woods

1476
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:20,000
and then he starts noticing these black

1477
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:22,000
figures moving around the woods

1478
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:24,160
and then he sees up ahead of him what

1479
00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:25,359
looks like

1480
00:48:32,230 --> 00:48:31,839
um like something black like rubbing its

1481
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:32,240
back

1482
00:48:36,390 --> 00:48:34,880
on one of the wooden poles like you know

1483
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:36,400
how we scratch our backs on the door

1484
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:37,280
frame

1485
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:38,800
like something standing there scratching

1486
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:40,400
his back on a pole leaning against the

1487
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:41,440
pole scratching his back

1488
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:44,160
and he's like man what is this thing and

1489
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:46,160
he makes the mistake of turning his work

1490
00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:46,720
light

1491
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:49,119
and shining it out towards the wood line

1492
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:50,480
to see what it was and that's when he

1493
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:52,319
started seeing these dog men

1494
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:55,359
and his description was the k-9 type

1495
00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:58,720
uh the best description

1496
00:49:01,990 --> 00:49:01,440
just to give you guys a visual the four

1497
00:49:03,829 --> 00:49:02,000
that were

1498
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:03,839
surrounding him in the ward lines were

1499
00:49:08,549 --> 00:49:05,359
like the k-9

1500
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:08,559
slimmer type dogmen um

1501
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:10,400
maybe you take the ones that are on

1502
00:49:12,549 --> 00:49:11,920
what's the name of the dog soldiers the

1503
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:12,559
movie

1504
00:49:15,589 --> 00:49:14,000
and add a little muscle to them but

1505
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:15,599
that's what they look like they were

1506
00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:17,280
various colors black

1507
00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:19,920
uh he said one was like a light brown um

1508
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:21,599
another one was like a brackish

1509
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:24,720
grayish but the one that really

1510
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:26,400
shook him was the one that was

1511
00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:28,480
scratching his back on the pole

1512
00:49:31,670 --> 00:49:30,240
because this one he said he knew was the

1513
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:31,680
alpha because

1514
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:35,440
um he started walking out to the street

1515
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:36,880
walking towards him once he shined the

1516
00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:37,440
light

1517
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:39,280
well at this point time skipper's in a

1518
00:49:42,390 --> 00:49:40,640
bucket and he's freaking out i mean

1519
00:49:44,309 --> 00:49:42,400
completely and totally freaking out

1520
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:44,319
so he's crouched down in the bucket like

1521
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:45,599
man what are these things

1522
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:47,200
he doesn't raise it up as high as he can

1523
00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:48,880
go this is

1524
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:51,040
his safety point he's up high that's the

1525
00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:52,079
only thing that makes him safe but

1526
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:53,359
they're circling his truck

1527
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:54,960
they're making noises then they start

1528
00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:57,359
tossing gravel and little rocks

1529
00:50:01,589 --> 00:50:00,000
at the side of the bucket truck and he's

1530
00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:01,599
like you know

1531
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:02,880
he called me by my real name but i'm

1532
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:04,960
about to say but he was like look dude

1533
00:50:08,150 --> 00:50:07,599
um i'm in this truck and he's like i'm

1534
00:50:10,390 --> 00:50:08,160
literally

1535
00:50:11,910 --> 00:50:10,400
pissing my pants he's like because this

1536
00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:11,920
is like werewolves she was like this

1537
00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:14,160
is i'm pissing my pants bro you say so

1538
00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:16,400
now his pants lego wet

1539
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:18,079
and he's in his bucket he's looking at

1540
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:19,680
his urine fill up the bucket

1541
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:22,720
that he's in and he comes up with this

1542
00:50:25,829 --> 00:50:24,000
crazy idea

1543
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:25,839
he was like i have flare guns in here

1544
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:26,880
and i was like well what would you be

1545
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:28,079
doing on the floor and he said we have

1546
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:29,119
emergency kits

1547
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:30,960
because we go out in storms and

1548
00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:32,720
sometimes we're not in

1549
00:50:36,230 --> 00:50:34,960
uh a regular tropical song sometimes

1550
00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:36,240
we're in snowstorms

1551
00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:37,760
sometimes we're everywhere he's so he

1552
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,559
takes his flare gun and shoots a flare

1553
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:42,720
over into the tree line over above the

1554
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:44,240
tree line to where the flare goes off

1555
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:45,359
into the woods

1556
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:48,319
well the four dog men that were around

1557
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:49,359
him

1558
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:51,920
they go off chasing after the flare and

1559
00:50:55,030 --> 00:50:53,680
he sees them run off well at that point

1560
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:55,040
in time he's like okay it works

1561
00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:57,599
when he stands up he looks in the road

1562
00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:59,839
the alpha male dog man which is this

1563
00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:00,400
huge

1564
00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:03,680
he described it as the the black guy on

1565
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:05,359
underworld that was he i said what did

1566
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:06,400
he look like he was like remember the

1567
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:07,040
black guy

1568
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:08,880
the world a bald head one that was like

1569
00:51:11,589 --> 00:51:10,240
the friend of the boss i was like yeah

1570
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:11,599
he's like remember when he transformed

1571
00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:12,480
how he looked

1572
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:13,680
and i was like yeah he's like that's

1573
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,240
what it looked like and

1574
00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:17,920
he said that this thing stood there and

1575
00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:20,480
looked at him kind of with the snarl on

1576
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:22,400
his face like it was angry with him

1577
00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:24,240
and it cocked his head and growled at

1578
00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:26,400
him looking at its friends looking over

1579
00:51:31,190 --> 00:51:28,480
at his friends running into the woods

1580
00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:31,200
and then it took off running behind them

1581
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:33,040
and i said well what what do you mean

1582
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:34,640
like it looked like it was angry

1583
00:51:38,790 --> 00:51:36,640
and this was the very first time that i

1584
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:38,800
started understanding the intelligence

1585
00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:40,079
of these creatures

1586
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:44,079
um because it gave him an impression

1587
00:51:46,230 --> 00:51:44,640
right

1588
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:46,240
and then from this point in time i have

1589
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,760
been asked these questions do you think

1590
00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:48,960
these creatures

1591
00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:51,200
uh are intelligent or smart or this or

1592
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:54,000
that only human beings have the ability

1593
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:54,800
to

1594
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:57,520
give you an impression right i've talked

1595
00:52:01,030 --> 00:51:59,040
to many of hunters they don't they never

1596
00:52:01,829 --> 00:52:01,040
say a bear gave me an impression that it

1597
00:52:04,150 --> 00:52:01,839
was mad

1598
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:04,160
it may have pre-behaved in the manner

1599
00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:05,760
that allowed that made me think it was

1600
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:06,480
mad

1601
00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:08,640
but to give a facial expression take a

1602
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:10,160
certain level of intelligence

1603
00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:12,160
and i harpered on this with him for a

1604
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:13,680
while or i hopped on this with him for a

1605
00:52:17,030 --> 00:52:14,880
little while because i wanted to get a

1606
00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:17,040
better understanding of what he meant by

1607
00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:18,800
the expression and he was like it

1608
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:21,520
literally gave me this facial expression

1609
00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:22,079
that was

1610
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:24,319
familiar like a human being would make

1611
00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:26,240
with me when they're angry or they're

1612
00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:27,839
mad or they're disgusted

1613
00:52:32,309 --> 00:52:29,359
he was like in fact the best way to

1614
00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:32,319
describe it was it was slightly agitated

1615
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:33,839
and disgusted by the fact that i had

1616
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:35,200
shot the flare up

1617
00:52:40,069 --> 00:52:36,800
and then it went on and chased down his

1618
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:40,079
friends so he proceeds to

1619
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:41,920
climb down out of the bucket epic goes

1620
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:43,599
into the wood line with his friends

1621
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:45,760
hops in a truck drives off right

1622
00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:47,040
speeding off

1623
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:48,720
gets to a service station calls this

1624
00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:50,079
ball says hey man i'm not gonna be able

1625
00:52:53,349 --> 00:52:51,760
to finish this job we got some crazy

1626
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:53,359
stuff going on down here

1627
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:54,800
um and i'm not gonna be able to do it

1628
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:56,000
this boss says well if you want to keep

1629
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:57,119
your job you're gonna get

1630
00:53:00,230 --> 00:52:58,800
you're gonna get this work done he said

1631
00:53:01,190 --> 00:53:00,240
well at least send me somebody else out

1632
00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:01,200
to help me

1633
00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:03,680
finish it so send another gentleman out

1634
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:05,440
to help him finish they both work on the

1635
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:06,079
lines

1636
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:08,559
these creatures return and circle them

1637
00:53:11,829 --> 00:53:09,119
and

1638
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:11,839
uh make their presence known but they're

1639
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:13,040
able to fix the line

1640
00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:14,800
and then get out of there so that was my

1641
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:20,870
you know i i do get on i get a fair

1642
00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:22,640
amount of uh

1643
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:25,440
sightings down in mississippi area in

1644
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:26,960
fact the uh

1645
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:29,200
mississippi area near the louisiana

1646
00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:30,480
border

1647
00:53:35,109 --> 00:53:32,559
for whatever reason i had i had one

1648
00:53:37,829 --> 00:53:35,119
actually got one last week

1649
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:37,839
and uh it's it's something and it is one

1650
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:38,720
the swamps i

1651
00:53:42,069 --> 00:53:40,880
i don't know what it is but these things

1652
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:42,079
do seem to

1653
00:53:49,190 --> 00:53:45,520
uh inhabit the lowlands and

1654
00:53:51,589 --> 00:53:49,200
um you know and low water you know

1655
00:53:52,390 --> 00:53:51,599
swampy areas so that's that's

1656
00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:52,400
interesting

1657
00:54:02,309 --> 00:54:00,319
go ahead i'm sorry well what do you

1658
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:02,319
believe is the uh what is your

1659
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:05,520
most interesting story that you believe

1660
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:08,000
is the most interesting story

1661
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:11,839
in general or dogman story okay

1662
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:15,920
well i didn't have a dog man anything

1663
00:54:19,829 --> 00:54:18,640
um i would say the most interesting

1664
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:19,839
story

1665
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:23,680
that i've been told uh is this one about

1666
00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:26,240
this girl who grew up not too far from

1667
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:28,640
right here when i went uh and it's a

1668
00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:31,200
story of a possession

1669
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:32,720
and the reason why it's interesting is

1670
00:54:38,150 --> 00:54:35,119
because um the gentleman who

1671
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:38,160
shared this story with me

1672
00:54:41,589 --> 00:54:40,079
well that one engineers this other one

1673
00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:41,599
that's coming out about

1674
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:43,119
another friend of mine who had a

1675
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:44,240
accident when we were in high school but

1676
00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:46,079
i'll talk about the possession one first

1677
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:49,520
um so

1678
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:51,119
the gentleman who shares this story with

1679
00:54:57,750 --> 00:54:52,880
me i've known him

1680
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:57,760
for while since 2000 so that makes 16

1681
00:55:02,470 --> 00:54:59,200
years

1682
00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:02,480
he just

1683
00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:04,400
about a month ago found out what i was

1684
00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:07,200
doing to another group of friends

1685
00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:10,160
and he used to work as a social worker

1686
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:11,920
had a degree in psychology

1687
00:55:17,589 --> 00:55:15,599
and worked as a social worker here

1688
00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:17,599
and so he actually came to visit me at

1689
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:20,319
my house and he was like hey you know

1690
00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:22,160
i got a story for you so we sit on my

1691
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:23,440
porch and let's smoke a cigar

1692
00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:25,760
he's telling me this very very long

1693
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:27,520
drawn out story about him

1694
00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:29,520
visiting his family's house multiple

1695
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:31,200
times here in new orleans

1696
00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:33,440
because their daughter was having these

1697
00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:36,319
severe psychiatric breakdowns

1698
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:39,359
and he started off the story saying man

1699
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:41,040
when i pulled up to the house

1700
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:43,760
it was like if you imagine new orleans

1701
00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:45,359
in springtime everything is green

1702
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:47,040
everything is beautiful there are some

1703
00:55:50,470 --> 00:55:48,720
people have palm trees there's other

1704
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:50,480
people who have just these bushes

1705
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:51,920
there's rose plants in the neighborhood

1706
00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:53,440
next year that's the name of europe but

1707
00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:54,480
this house

1708
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:58,160
was dead everything was

1709
00:56:02,230 --> 00:56:00,720
brown and dead he's like so when i

1710
00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:02,240
pulled up to the house he was like

1711
00:56:06,069 --> 00:56:04,000
what's my first thought was what's wrong

1712
00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:06,079
here that all the grass is there and

1713
00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:07,200
literally

1714
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:09,359
the neighbor's grass is green and

1715
00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:11,359
beautiful but the grass and everything

1716
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:13,200
at this house is dead

1717
00:56:16,789 --> 00:56:15,359
and so he proceeded to go into the house

1718
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:16,799
talk with the mother

1719
00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:19,440
talk with the brother the father who of

1720
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:21,359
this young lady who was having these

1721
00:56:25,270 --> 00:56:23,599
issues he only talked to him one time

1722
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:25,280
because at this point in time the father

1723
00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:26,640
and mother were having issues and he was

1724
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:28,000
staying out of the house but

1725
00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:30,480
basically the daughter had started

1726
00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:31,839
having these episodes where she was

1727
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:33,599
being extremely violent

1728
00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:35,920
um she was cursing and screaming and

1729
00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:37,280
she's beating up her little brother

1730
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:39,119
which she had never did and

1731
00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:40,720
just all these crazy things right so

1732
00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:43,200
when he first goes to meet her

1733
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:44,960
the house itself the condition of the

1734
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:47,040
house was very very clean

1735
00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:49,200
like clean to the point to where he said

1736
00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:50,240
he smelled bleach

1737
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:52,799
like someone had just freshly you know

1738
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:54,880
used bleach to clean the household

1739
00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:57,599
and he goes into this goes to the house

1740
00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:59,280
he makes a left goes down the hallway

1741
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:01,440
and the bedroom door where the girl is

1742
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:02,640
is closed

1743
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:04,640
um and one of the things that he pointed

1744
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:06,079
out to me that was kind of

1745
00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:07,920
odd and i asked him about this well she

1746
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:09,359
said have you have you ever seen an eye

1747
00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:10,559
bolt and i was like yeah a little small

1748
00:57:12,630 --> 00:57:12,000
eyeball that you kind of screw into a

1749
00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:12,640
door

1750
00:57:17,109 --> 00:57:14,079
he was like yeah well there was an eye

1751
00:57:19,109 --> 00:57:17,119
bolt on the outside of her door

1752
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:19,119
with a little latch a little metal latch

1753
00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:20,880
that would allow them to lock her

1754
00:57:25,990 --> 00:57:23,599
into the room and in new orleans those

1755
00:57:28,870 --> 00:57:26,000
hot all houses are very old and so

1756
00:57:30,549 --> 00:57:28,880
down here you'll find interior doors of

1757
00:57:31,430 --> 00:57:30,559
houses with these eye bolts with these

1758
00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:31,440
latches right

1759
00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:33,280
because they you had the whole skeleton

1760
00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:34,880
key locks and sometimes those locks

1761
00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:35,760
wouldn't work so

1762
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:37,040
you would just put a little latch but

1763
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:38,400
normally put it on the inside of the

1764
00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:40,480
door because the person who's inside

1765
00:57:44,549 --> 00:57:42,160
wants privacy right not the person

1766
00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:44,559
on the outside so he thought that was

1767
00:57:47,829 --> 00:57:45,920
extremely strange i mean he really

1768
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:47,839
really thought it was strange

1769
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:50,000
but he opens the door with the mother

1770
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:51,520
and they go into the room

1771
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:54,240
and he starts describing this to me and

1772
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:55,920
the first i haven't described to me four

1773
00:57:58,230 --> 00:57:57,040
times and i'm gonna try and paint this

1774
00:58:01,349 --> 00:57:58,240
picture for you guys

1775
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:01,359
as clear as possible the little girl is

1776
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:04,559
is laying on the bed right

1777
00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:06,480
her feet are pace our feet are facing

1778
00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:08,480
the headboard so it's just like any

1779
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:10,000
anybody who has a daughter has seen her

1780
00:58:13,589 --> 00:58:11,680
daughter do this so her head's at the

1781
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:13,599
foot of the bed right

1782
00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:17,200
um but her neck is positioned to where

1783
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:18,720
she's kind of has her head

1784
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:21,760
upside down looking at the doorway her

1785
00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:23,760
hair is flowing downwards

1786
00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:26,400
um where she's hanging straight down and

1787
00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:26,880
she's

1788
00:58:31,109 --> 00:58:28,960
laying in a bed up looking at him upside

1789
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:31,119
down and so when he walks in she's

1790
00:58:36,230 --> 00:58:32,960
looking at him like this

1791
00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:36,240
and he says hey how are you doing

1792
00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:38,720
you know i came over to check on you i

1793
00:58:40,870 --> 00:58:40,079
just wanted to know what's going on with

1794
00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:40,880
you

1795
00:58:45,589 --> 00:58:43,520
and i asked him to describe to me the

1796
00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:45,599
feeling that he felt when he was talking

1797
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:46,799
to this little girl

1798
00:58:50,470 --> 00:58:49,200
he was like man you know she wasn't a

1799
00:58:52,870 --> 00:58:50,480
threat

1800
00:58:53,510 --> 00:58:52,880
because she was a little girl he was

1801
00:58:55,430 --> 00:58:53,520
like but

1802
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:55,440
the feeling the energy that came from

1803
00:58:59,510 --> 00:58:57,599
her was so threatening it wasn't normal

1804
00:59:00,789 --> 00:58:59,520
it wasn't a little girl he's like it was

1805
00:59:01,349 --> 00:59:00,799
but it wasn't i was like what do you

1806
00:59:02,870 --> 00:59:01,359
mean

1807
00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:02,880
he was like well imagine somebody laying

1808
00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:04,799
in the bed like that and they're sliding

1809
00:59:09,109 --> 00:59:06,400
their legs up and down

1810
00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:09,119
in and out opening them spreading them

1811
00:59:13,109 --> 00:59:10,640
closing them doing all these

1812
00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:13,119
like crazy little motions that are just

1813
00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:13,680
stupid

1814
00:59:19,510 --> 00:59:18,000
unnecessary but she uses double talk and

1815
00:59:20,950 --> 00:59:19,520
i was like well you mean double talk

1816
00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:20,960
like saying the same thing twice and he

1817
00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:21,839
was like yeah

1818
00:59:25,829 --> 00:59:23,440
so he gave me an example and he told me

1819
00:59:27,349 --> 00:59:25,839
he said hey taylor you know

1820
00:59:29,109 --> 00:59:27,359
i came over here to have a conversation

1821
00:59:32,230 --> 00:59:29,119
with you to see it okay

1822
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:32,240
she's like i'm okay and he will

1823
00:59:35,109 --> 00:59:33,680
and as he's telling the story i'm like

1824
00:59:36,870 --> 00:59:35,119
what do you mean that's how she talked

1825
00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:36,880
he was like everything was this freaky

1826
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:38,079
double talk

1827
00:59:43,030 --> 00:59:41,200
and so he gets enough of this right

1828
00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:43,040
he's done with it he's getting ready to

1829
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:45,520
leave and she tells him

1830
00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:47,839
look out for the puppies they're they're

1831
00:59:50,390 --> 00:59:49,520
pretty or they're cute don't hit the

1832
00:59:51,430 --> 00:59:50,400
puppies

1833
00:59:53,270 --> 00:59:51,440
he's like well what are you talking

1834
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:53,280
about she's like you'll understand later

1835
00:59:55,990 --> 00:59:54,960
just don't hit the puppies they're so

1836
00:59:57,589 --> 00:59:56,000
cute

1837
00:59:58,950 --> 00:59:57,599
so he's at this point in time he's

1838
01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:58,960
freaked out he decides he's going to

1839
01:00:02,069 --> 01:00:00,880
leave he talks his way out of the house

1840
01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:02,079
he tells the mother that he's going to

1841
01:00:04,150 --> 01:00:03,359
set an appointment for them to meet

1842
01:00:07,750 --> 01:00:04,160
again

1843
01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:07,760
well the area that we that i'm in now

1844
01:00:11,109 --> 01:00:09,359
in the area that this house is in which

1845
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:11,119
is not very far is less than a mile from

1846
01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:11,760
here

1847
01:00:15,829 --> 01:00:13,920
is close to napoleon avenue in new

1848
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:15,839
orleans right napoleon and

1849
01:00:19,510 --> 01:00:18,640
claiborne well right on the poland in

1850
01:00:23,190 --> 01:00:19,520
claiborne there's

1851
01:00:25,750 --> 01:00:23,200
a power eyes literally like

1852
01:00:26,630 --> 01:00:25,760
a block away right so he's leaving the

1853
01:00:28,309 --> 01:00:26,640
neighborhood

1854
01:00:30,069 --> 01:00:28,319
heading door heading down crossing

1855
01:00:32,230 --> 01:00:30,079
through a green light

1856
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:32,240
and right when he gets to the popeyes on

1857
01:00:35,910 --> 01:00:34,559
this on his corner which is a little one

1858
01:00:39,190 --> 01:00:35,920
block off the corner

1859
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:39,200
um a lady who's walking her dogs both of

1860
01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:41,119
her dogs kind of popped the leash and

1861
01:00:43,349 --> 01:00:42,400
yank the leash out of her hand and run

1862
01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:43,359
out into the street

1863
01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:45,920
he slams on the brake squirms and tries

1864
01:00:49,109 --> 01:00:47,359
to avoid these dogs

1865
01:00:50,549 --> 01:00:49,119
the lady comes out grabs the dogs like

1866
01:00:52,230 --> 01:00:50,559
oh my god thank you for not hitting my

1867
01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:52,240
puppies and blah blah blah blah

1868
01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:53,680
so in the back of his mind at this point

1869
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:55,440
in time he's realizing that this girl

1870
01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:57,280
predicted the future to him

1871
01:01:01,910 --> 01:01:00,480
now during our conversation

1872
01:01:03,910 --> 01:01:01,920
and it's kind of hard to paint all these

1873
01:01:07,109 --> 01:01:03,920
pictures but during our conversation

1874
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:07,119
i stop right there and i say hey on a

1875
01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:08,880
scale of 1-10

1876
01:01:13,190 --> 01:01:12,000
i said um at this point in time what did

1877
01:01:14,230 --> 01:01:13,200
you believe about this girl did you

1878
01:01:15,990 --> 01:01:14,240
believe she was possessed

1879
01:01:17,270 --> 01:01:16,000
or did you believe that it was a

1880
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:17,280
coincidence

1881
01:01:20,870 --> 01:01:19,119
and he was like look based on a look in

1882
01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:20,880
this girl's eyes

1883
01:01:24,069 --> 01:01:23,440
based on the way she was moving i was

1884
01:01:26,710 --> 01:01:24,079
convinced

1885
01:01:28,230 --> 01:01:26,720
that maybe a seven she was possessed by

1886
01:01:30,789 --> 01:01:28,240
some other worldly entity

1887
01:01:33,270 --> 01:01:30,799
he said when the accident happened and i

1888
01:01:34,710 --> 01:01:33,280
almost hit this lady and her dogs

1889
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:34,720
he was like at that point in time i

1890
01:01:38,470 --> 01:01:36,640
moved up into a nine i said well did you

1891
01:01:39,990 --> 01:01:38,480
get to a 10 or 12.

1892
01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:40,000
he was like yes i did and i was like

1893
01:01:43,750 --> 01:01:42,000
well when when i went back to the

1894
01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:43,760
property so the second time he went back

1895
01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:45,280
to the house and the very last time he

1896
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:46,720
went back to the house

1897
01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:48,240
he goes to the house and it's completely

1898
01:01:53,349 --> 01:01:50,480
different um

1899
01:01:54,789 --> 01:01:53,359
the son opens the door with a black eye

1900
01:01:56,950 --> 01:01:54,799
the mother is sitting on the sofa kind

1901
01:01:58,470 --> 01:01:56,960
of staring looking crazy

1902
01:02:00,710 --> 01:01:58,480
the kitchen is a mess there's chicken

1903
01:02:02,950 --> 01:02:00,720
bones on the floor the garbage is over

1904
01:02:04,950 --> 01:02:02,960
overrun there are flies all over the

1905
01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:04,960
house and he can smell the stench of

1906
01:02:08,150 --> 01:02:06,400
feces

1907
01:02:10,309 --> 01:02:08,160
this family's house had a lot of

1908
01:02:11,589 --> 01:02:10,319
religious paraphernalia in it like you

1909
01:02:13,829 --> 01:02:11,599
know pictures of mary

1910
01:02:15,670 --> 01:02:13,839
jesus all those things are just screwed

1911
01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:15,680
around the house and torn

1912
01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:17,680
um and he actually had pictures of the

1913
01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:19,280
fireplace and what what was going on

1914
01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:20,160
with the fireplace

1915
01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:22,160
they had a big you know there's that

1916
01:02:25,990 --> 01:02:23,760
sacred heart of jesus

1917
01:02:27,190 --> 01:02:26,000
um picture where it's like jesus and it

1918
01:02:28,309 --> 01:02:27,200
shows his heart

1919
01:02:29,829 --> 01:02:28,319
i don't know if you guys are familiar

1920
01:02:31,589 --> 01:02:29,839
with new orleans is a very catholic city

1921
01:02:34,390 --> 01:02:31,599
so this this picture's everywhere

1922
01:02:35,109 --> 01:02:34,400
that picture was tilted to the right and

1923
01:02:36,630 --> 01:02:35,119
had like

1924
01:02:38,230 --> 01:02:36,640
tear marks through it and it was kind of

1925
01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:38,240
torn like somebody took something

1926
01:02:41,670 --> 01:02:40,000
jabbed it and kind of tore through it

1927
01:02:45,109 --> 01:02:41,680
and ripped it like a knife or

1928
01:02:45,589 --> 01:02:45,119
a pen or something and so he's like man

1929
01:02:47,029 --> 01:02:45,599
look

1930
01:02:49,190 --> 01:02:47,039
when i when i went into this house the

1931
01:02:50,069 --> 01:02:49,200
second time i mean i can't use the words

1932
01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:50,079
he said but

1933
01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:52,319
he said smell like feces right he's like

1934
01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:54,240
so i'm like okay this is crazy

1935
01:02:57,589 --> 01:02:55,920
you know the mom is not really talking

1936
01:02:58,789 --> 01:02:57,599
much i'm trying to get her to tell me

1937
01:03:01,510 --> 01:02:58,799
what's going on

1938
01:03:02,710 --> 01:03:01,520
she's just like she's shriveled up and

1939
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:02,720
she's weak and

1940
01:03:06,390 --> 01:03:04,720
she just looks like she's defeated so he

1941
01:03:08,069 --> 01:03:06,400
circles around and goes to the bedroom

1942
01:03:10,630 --> 01:03:08,079
well when he gets to the bedroom

1943
01:03:12,309 --> 01:03:10,640
the eye boat is broken out of the door

1944
01:03:17,510 --> 01:03:12,319
and

1945
01:03:19,349 --> 01:03:17,520
when he meant by partially nude he meant

1946
01:03:20,390 --> 01:03:19,359
like she had a bottom on but she had a

1947
01:03:22,630 --> 01:03:20,400
tank top with

1948
01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:22,640
one of her breasts exposed and she was

1949
01:03:26,710 --> 01:03:24,960
smearing feces on the walls

1950
01:03:29,510 --> 01:03:26,720
like literally smearing it on the walls

1951
01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:29,520
of the house and so

1952
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:31,520
i can't describe it accurately without

1953
01:03:35,190 --> 01:03:33,280
using the language that he used because

1954
01:03:38,069 --> 01:03:35,200
the language is very very important

1955
01:03:39,829 --> 01:03:38,079
but at this point in time he's like yo

1956
01:03:41,990 --> 01:03:39,839
this is him telling me he's like yo man

1957
01:03:42,829 --> 01:03:42,000
like this is some weird crap dude he was

1958
01:03:49,430 --> 01:03:42,839
like

1959
01:03:50,950 --> 01:03:49,440
he said i've dealt with killers

1960
01:03:52,150 --> 01:03:50,960
he's like i've dealt with pedophiles

1961
01:03:52,549 --> 01:03:52,160
he's like i dealt with all these

1962
01:03:54,870 --> 01:03:52,559
different

1963
01:03:56,470 --> 01:03:54,880
character personality types he said but

1964
01:03:58,230 --> 01:03:56,480
i've never seen anybody do anything like

1965
01:03:59,109 --> 01:03:58,240
this this is insane like this is just

1966
01:04:01,349 --> 01:03:59,119
crazy

1967
01:04:02,309 --> 01:04:01,359
and i was like okay well if she you know

1968
01:04:05,109 --> 01:04:02,319
is she like

1969
01:04:05,990 --> 01:04:05,119
psychiatrically or clinically crazy or

1970
01:04:07,589 --> 01:04:06,000
insane

1971
01:04:09,750 --> 01:04:07,599
or at this point in time do you think

1972
01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:09,760
she's possessed he was like i'm

1973
01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:11,280
convinced that this little girl was

1974
01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:13,839
possessed only because of the fact that

1975
01:04:17,109 --> 01:04:15,839
she knew about me about to have an

1976
01:04:18,630 --> 01:04:17,119
accident with some puppies she's like

1977
01:04:20,230 --> 01:04:18,640
now if anybody else is doing that you

1978
01:04:21,349 --> 01:04:20,240
just think they're clinically insane and

1979
01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:21,359
they're crazy

1980
01:04:24,950 --> 01:04:23,760
but her knowing about me getting ready

1981
01:04:27,589 --> 01:04:24,960
to have an accident

1982
01:04:29,510 --> 01:04:27,599
on the way leaving was what made me feel

1983
01:04:31,349 --> 01:04:29,520
feel and believe she was possessed so

1984
01:04:32,950 --> 01:04:31,359
she starts to double talk again while

1985
01:04:34,470 --> 01:04:32,960
he's there with her

1986
01:04:36,069 --> 01:04:34,480
and he says hey i was just coming back

1987
01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:36,079
to check on you what are you doing

1988
01:04:39,829 --> 01:04:37,200
and these are part of the things that i

1989
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:39,839
leave out of the story and she says

1990
01:04:43,829 --> 01:04:41,680
i'm fine i'm fine how are you how are

1991
01:04:44,549 --> 01:04:43,839
you and he's like well i'm doing very

1992
01:04:46,390 --> 01:04:44,559
well

1993
01:04:47,829 --> 01:04:46,400
why are you doing what you're doing

1994
01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:47,839
she's like it's pretty don't you think

1995
01:04:52,150 --> 01:04:48,960
it's pretty

1996
01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:52,160
i think it's very nasty and i think you

1997
01:04:56,549 --> 01:04:53,200
shouldn't be doing it

1998
01:04:59,589 --> 01:04:56,559
and it's unsanitary and she tells him

1999
01:05:02,630 --> 01:04:59,599
sanitation is a part of

2000
01:05:05,190 --> 01:05:02,640
no santa honestly said sanitation

2001
01:05:06,230 --> 01:05:05,200
sanitary is a massive opinion it's what

2002
01:05:08,789 --> 01:05:06,240
she tells him

2003
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:08,799
and he was like what what sanitary is a

2004
01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:10,160
matter of opinion

2005
01:05:14,230 --> 01:05:12,880
and he's like okay dude and this now

2006
01:05:15,270 --> 01:05:14,240
he's pausing telling me himself he's

2007
01:05:17,109 --> 01:05:15,280
like dude

2008
01:05:18,950 --> 01:05:17,119
this girl's gonna be 13 years old he's

2009
01:05:20,390 --> 01:05:18,960
like the conversation is weird it's

2010
01:05:23,270 --> 01:05:20,400
crazy it's freaky

2011
01:05:24,710 --> 01:05:23,280
i just want to get out of the house so

2012
01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:24,720
at this point in time she starts

2013
01:05:27,349 --> 01:05:26,000
referencing the puppy

2014
01:05:29,270 --> 01:05:27,359
she said i told you be careful for the

2015
01:05:30,309 --> 01:05:29,280
puppies they were so cute i'm glad you

2016
01:05:31,589 --> 01:05:30,319
didn't hit him

2017
01:05:33,589 --> 01:05:31,599
and so at that point in time he's like

2018
01:05:35,349 --> 01:05:33,599
look i'm done he walks back into the

2019
01:05:36,870 --> 01:05:35,359
living room he tells her mom look i'm

2020
01:05:39,029 --> 01:05:36,880
setting an appointment for you

2021
01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:39,039
and your daughter to go to the doctor he

2022
01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:40,240
doesn't want anything else to do with

2023
01:05:43,910 --> 01:05:42,000
the case he goes back to his office and

2024
01:05:46,549 --> 01:05:43,920
tells people about this freaky case

2025
01:05:48,470 --> 01:05:46,559
and nobody wants to do anything with it

2026
01:05:50,549 --> 01:05:48,480
they go to the doctor

2027
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:50,559
after the family goes to the doctor he

2028
01:05:54,230 --> 01:05:52,559
goes to visit the doctor himself

2029
01:05:55,589 --> 01:05:54,240
and the doctor tells him there's nothing

2030
01:05:57,910 --> 01:05:55,599
physically wrong with her

2031
01:05:59,270 --> 01:05:57,920
but she needs to see an exorcist and he

2032
01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:59,280
access that he asked the doctor he said

2033
01:06:02,309 --> 01:06:00,960
well what gives you that opinion

2034
01:06:03,829 --> 01:06:02,319
he was like because the things that she

2035
01:06:05,910 --> 01:06:03,839
was saying and the things she was doing

2036
01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:05,920
in my in my waiting room

2037
01:06:09,190 --> 01:06:07,760
and she was like what do you mean in the

2038
01:06:10,390 --> 01:06:09,200
waiting room like in the waiting room

2039
01:06:12,789 --> 01:06:10,400
with the rest of the people

2040
01:06:15,109 --> 01:06:12,799
she was giving people this evil vibe and

2041
01:06:17,430 --> 01:06:15,119
people were actually leaving my office

2042
01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:17,440
because she was there this girl is not

2043
01:06:20,470 --> 01:06:19,200
normal something's wrong with her and

2044
01:06:23,190 --> 01:06:20,480
she needs to go

2045
01:06:24,789 --> 01:06:23,200
to see an exorcist well a week later her

2046
01:06:26,390 --> 01:06:24,799
mother wakes up and she's over her with

2047
01:06:27,829 --> 01:06:26,400
a butcher knife trying to kill a mother

2048
01:06:29,670 --> 01:06:27,839
her mother fights her all

2049
01:06:31,910 --> 01:06:29,680
and they call the police and she's

2050
01:06:33,190 --> 01:06:31,920
submitted or admitted to a psychiatric

2051
01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:33,200
ward

2052
01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:35,200
on the north shore which is one of the

2053
01:06:38,390 --> 01:06:36,720
few ones we have left in the state of

2054
01:06:42,789 --> 01:06:38,400
louisiana thanks to

2055
01:06:44,549 --> 01:06:42,799
uh our crazy governor bobby jindal and

2056
01:06:46,870 --> 01:06:44,559
every time this girl has been close to

2057
01:06:48,549 --> 01:06:46,880
getting released uh she has another

2058
01:06:50,150 --> 01:06:48,559
psychotic episode almost like something

2059
01:06:51,990 --> 01:06:50,160
doesn't want her to get out of there

2060
01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:52,000
like she'll get better she'll get fine

2061
01:06:55,510 --> 01:06:53,280
and right when she's getting ready

2062
01:06:56,950 --> 01:06:55,520
really she has like a crazy insane

2063
01:06:58,950 --> 01:06:56,960
psychotic episode

2064
01:07:00,549 --> 01:06:58,960
um and so that was one of the most

2065
01:07:02,950 --> 01:07:00,559
interesting stories

2066
01:07:05,750 --> 01:07:02,960
that is interesting that i've been told

2067
01:07:07,990 --> 01:07:05,760
now let's talk about the house so

2068
01:07:09,270 --> 01:07:08,000
of course i tell people all the time

2069
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:09,280
there's a thin line between

2070
01:07:14,230 --> 01:07:11,280
entertainment and reality it really and

2071
01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:14,240
it is so what i've discovered is

2072
01:07:18,309 --> 01:07:15,839
there's a way to skirt the line between

2073
01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:18,319
the two and keep yourself safe

2074
01:07:23,829 --> 01:07:21,760
um but if you go too far um then

2075
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:23,839
bad things happen so i just wanted to

2076
01:07:26,470 --> 01:07:25,200
drive by the house because he

2077
01:07:29,270 --> 01:07:26,480
you know he gave me the address and

2078
01:07:31,670 --> 01:07:29,280
everything and

2079
01:07:33,029 --> 01:07:31,680
i drove by the house the grass and

2080
01:07:34,549 --> 01:07:33,039
everything is still dead outside this

2081
01:07:36,710 --> 01:07:34,559
house to this day right now

2082
01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:36,720
we're in summertime in new orleans it's

2083
01:07:40,230 --> 01:07:37,760
dead to this day

2084
01:07:42,069 --> 01:07:40,240
the grass is dead the palm tree that's

2085
01:07:42,950 --> 01:07:42,079
out there is withered and dead the

2086
01:07:45,029 --> 01:07:42,960
bushes are dead

2087
01:07:46,870 --> 01:07:45,039
everything is still dead at this house

2088
01:07:48,549 --> 01:07:46,880
it's it looks like

2089
01:07:50,069 --> 01:07:48,559
in fact this is what it looks like it

2090
01:07:51,029 --> 01:07:50,079
looks like someone started renovating

2091
01:07:54,150 --> 01:07:51,039
the katrina house

2092
01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:54,160
after it was you know after the storm um

2093
01:07:57,910 --> 01:07:55,200
and they did a pretty good job

2094
01:08:00,150 --> 01:07:57,920
renovating it but they didn't put

2095
01:08:01,670 --> 01:08:00,160
uh they didn't do the landscaping right

2096
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:01,680
and that's that's the that's the way the

2097
01:08:05,029 --> 01:08:02,880
best way to describe it

2098
01:08:06,870 --> 01:08:05,039
it it has this the kind of stench of

2099
01:08:08,230 --> 01:08:06,880
katrina death how katrina killed the

2100
01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:08,240
grass and the

2101
01:08:11,829 --> 01:08:10,400
and the trees and the plants it still

2102
01:08:13,910 --> 01:08:11,839
has that look to it like

2103
01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:13,920
you renovated the house but you didn't

2104
01:08:17,590 --> 01:08:15,680
deal with the landscaping after katrina

2105
01:08:21,269 --> 01:08:17,600
is the best way to put it

2106
01:08:22,709 --> 01:08:21,279
okay wow

2107
01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:22,719
so what do you think is going on you

2108
01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:25,199
think she was possessed

2109
01:08:32,550 --> 01:08:29,199
i hadn't seen her so i don't know but

2110
01:08:35,990 --> 01:08:34,229
i just think it's unusual that the

2111
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:36,000
doctor would actually say

2112
01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:37,600
that she was possessed i don't think

2113
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:40,400
i've ever heard of a doctor saying that

2114
01:08:46,149 --> 01:08:43,440
but i i guess if it gets to that point

2115
01:08:47,669 --> 01:08:46,159
maybe that's it maybe whether obviously

2116
01:08:50,390 --> 01:08:47,679
doctors in new orleans have seen that

2117
01:08:52,390 --> 01:08:50,400
more often i don't know

2118
01:08:53,990 --> 01:08:52,400
i'm saying to too we're privy to a

2119
01:08:56,789 --> 01:08:54,000
conversation between

2120
01:08:57,749 --> 01:08:56,799
a doctor and a social worker this is not

2121
01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:57,759
like the doctor's

2122
01:09:00,709 --> 01:08:58,799
you know we're privy to that

2123
01:09:02,229 --> 01:09:00,719
conversation because he decided to

2124
01:09:03,430 --> 01:09:02,239
disclose his information to me

2125
01:09:05,110 --> 01:09:03,440
and i'm pretty sure you know no

2126
01:09:06,630 --> 01:09:05,120
reputable doctor he's not going to walk

2127
01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:06,640
out in the weight room and be like ma'am

2128
01:09:10,149 --> 01:09:08,319
i want to tell you that your daughter's

2129
01:09:11,189 --> 01:09:10,159
possessed you know

2130
01:09:14,630 --> 01:09:11,199
he's not going to do that but we're

2131
01:09:20,550 --> 01:09:14,640
privy we're privy to that conversation

2132
01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:20,560
so that is a strange one wow

2133
01:09:25,910 --> 01:09:24,239
well the next one yeah i'm sorry

2134
01:09:27,430 --> 01:09:25,920
go ahead i can keep going all night guys

2135
01:09:29,030 --> 01:09:27,440
so if y'all yeah i want you you need to

2136
01:09:31,030 --> 01:09:29,040
cut me off i'm telling you coming out

2137
01:09:32,789 --> 01:09:31,040
well we'll we'll if you have a long

2138
01:09:34,149 --> 01:09:32,799
we'll take a long we'll fill up the time

2139
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:34,159
we missed with the technical

2140
01:09:37,669 --> 01:09:35,440
difficulties

2141
01:09:38,789 --> 01:09:37,679
uh let's go ahead and go into the next

2142
01:09:41,910 --> 01:09:38,799
one

2143
01:09:45,269 --> 01:09:41,920
getting ready to use

2144
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:45,279
promote the

2145
01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:48,000
dark waters channel and i discovered

2146
01:09:50,470 --> 01:09:49,600
something about youtube narrow horror

2147
01:09:52,390 --> 01:09:50,480
narratives

2148
01:09:53,829 --> 01:09:52,400
this guy got really friendly you know i

2149
01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:53,839
guess um

2150
01:09:58,070 --> 01:09:56,000
as as the dark waters family we've kind

2151
01:09:58,950 --> 01:09:58,080
of created done some historic things you

2152
01:10:01,189 --> 01:09:58,960
know as

2153
01:10:02,790 --> 01:10:01,199
we were the first youtube hard founder

2154
01:10:03,669 --> 01:10:02,800
that would be highlighted on coast coast

2155
01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:03,679
a.m

2156
01:10:06,709 --> 01:10:05,360
um i think i spoke for four hours

2157
01:10:07,990 --> 01:10:06,719
straight on coast to coast telling

2158
01:10:09,590 --> 01:10:08,000
stories live

2159
01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:09,600
you know and most hard narrators will

2160
01:10:14,709 --> 01:10:11,440
kind of read their stories

2161
01:10:15,510 --> 01:10:14,719
um off paper but i tell the stories live

2162
01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:15,520
you know

2163
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:17,440
yeah it doesn't bother me i can tell the

2164
01:10:20,550 --> 01:10:19,120
story's live so

2165
01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:20,560
what i decided to do was do a little

2166
01:10:24,630 --> 01:10:23,040
advertising one of my scariest stories

2167
01:10:26,709 --> 01:10:24,640
i don't know my scariest kind of short

2168
01:10:29,030 --> 01:10:26,719
stories this one comes from a guy that i

2169
01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:29,040
went to high school

2170
01:10:33,910 --> 01:10:31,520
this guy for with forever i'm talking

2171
01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:33,920
about since a freshman in high school

2172
01:10:37,830 --> 01:10:36,320
and when we played when we were in high

2173
01:10:39,030 --> 01:10:37,840
school i was on the football team

2174
01:10:41,110 --> 01:10:39,040
in fact i was the captain of the

2175
01:10:43,110 --> 01:10:41,120
football team i played little linebacker

2176
01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:43,120
he was a pretty mean guy when it came to

2177
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:44,400
a football field

2178
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:46,719
well this guy was a pretty boy fly boy

2179
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:48,400
he always had the women

2180
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:51,440
and after our homecoming game

2181
01:10:57,189 --> 01:10:54,640
um his girlfriend they left when they

2182
01:10:59,030 --> 01:10:57,199
left of the game and were headed to ihop

2183
01:11:00,630 --> 01:10:59,040
and on their way to ihop they have an

2184
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:00,640
accident with a drunk driver

2185
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:03,280
the guy swerves into a two-lane street

2186
01:11:06,229 --> 01:11:04,560
where ihot was on

2187
01:11:08,390 --> 01:11:06,239
guys swords into the lane hits his car

2188
01:11:10,229 --> 01:11:08,400
he's ejected from the vehicle

2189
01:11:12,070 --> 01:11:10,239
through the windshield the girlfriend

2190
01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:12,080
has the seatbelt on

2191
01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:15,120
he goes out of the window barely misses

2192
01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:15,679
a

2193
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:34,880
very first night

2194
01:11:39,669 --> 01:11:38,400
he was there um all his friends and

2195
01:11:42,229 --> 01:11:39,679
family had left

2196
01:11:44,070 --> 01:11:42,239
and he found himself on the run about 2

2197
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:44,080
30 3 o'clock in the morning

2198
01:11:47,430 --> 01:11:45,760
and he woke up and he would have these

2199
01:11:49,189 --> 01:11:47,440
moments of consciousness where

2200
01:11:51,430 --> 01:11:49,199
between the pain he would kind of wake

2201
01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:51,440
up and he will remember what happened to

2202
01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:53,520
him but he wasn't sure and

2203
01:11:56,709 --> 01:11:55,440
you know he was just foggy when he wakes

2204
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:56,719
up

2205
01:12:00,310 --> 01:11:58,560
and he's at methodist hospital back in

2206
01:12:02,070 --> 01:12:00,320
these days and you guys can look this up

2207
01:12:04,390 --> 01:12:02,080
memphis hospital was in new orleans east

2208
01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:04,400
on reed boulevard

2209
01:12:07,590 --> 01:12:05,920
she means that methodist hospital and

2210
01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:07,600
the way those hospital rooms were set up

2211
01:12:11,590 --> 01:12:08,640
was

2212
01:12:13,510 --> 01:12:11,600
um your bed is there to the left there's

2213
01:12:17,030 --> 01:12:13,520
a tv on the wall to the right

2214
01:12:18,550 --> 01:12:17,040
there's the bathroom further right

2215
01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:18,560
kind of on a diagonal if you're laying

2216
01:12:22,149 --> 01:12:20,640
in the bed behind you is the door

2217
01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:22,159
and that's where you know the nurses

2218
01:12:26,070 --> 01:12:23,920
come in so he wakes up

2219
01:12:27,590 --> 01:12:26,080
and he's kind of startled he's like man

2220
01:12:29,910 --> 01:12:27,600
what's going on you know i'm i'm

2221
01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:29,920
conscious he starts to feel the pain and

2222
01:12:33,270 --> 01:12:32,080
he's just trying his best to deal with

2223
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:33,280
the pain

2224
01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:36,560
and um and as he's

2225
01:12:39,350 --> 01:12:38,080
kind of coming to consciousness and

2226
01:12:40,390 --> 01:12:39,360
dealing with the pain he hears this

2227
01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:40,400
sound

2228
01:12:45,270 --> 01:12:43,120
and what he described it to me and again

2229
01:12:48,070 --> 01:12:45,280
this is a very very old friend

2230
01:12:48,870 --> 01:12:48,080
he's like bro he's like the sound was

2231
01:12:53,830 --> 01:12:48,880
like

2232
01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:53,840
and then it started getting louder and

2233
01:12:56,310 --> 01:12:55,120
he said you could hear these kind of

2234
01:12:59,430 --> 01:12:56,320
voices

2235
01:13:00,550 --> 01:12:59,440
not talking but screaming he said but

2236
01:13:02,070 --> 01:13:00,560
they were screaming low

2237
01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:02,080
and he was like but it was just moaning

2238
01:13:05,510 --> 01:13:03,600
and it's screaming he said it kept

2239
01:13:06,870 --> 01:13:05,520
getting louder and louder he said then i

2240
01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:06,880
identified it was coming from the

2241
01:13:10,870 --> 01:13:09,440
bathroom now to give you a picture of

2242
01:13:12,790 --> 01:13:10,880
how his physical

2243
01:13:14,470 --> 01:13:12,800
the physical conviction condition he was

2244
01:13:17,189 --> 01:13:14,480
in he's in a neck brace

2245
01:13:18,950 --> 01:13:17,199
he's got a class on his right leg he's

2246
01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:18,960
got ivs and

2247
01:13:25,590 --> 01:13:22,800
all this stuff attached to him um

2248
01:13:26,709 --> 01:13:25,600
and he's got the bed rails up on the bed

2249
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:26,719
and if you've ever been in hospital you

2250
01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:28,080
know once those bed rails up you're

2251
01:13:30,790 --> 01:13:29,120
pretty much trapped

2252
01:13:32,709 --> 01:13:30,800
so you got the neck brace on holding his

2253
01:13:34,310 --> 01:13:32,719
neck he's got this cast on his leg

2254
01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:34,320
he's got the bed rails up he's got all

2255
01:13:38,470 --> 01:13:37,040
these uh heart monsters and eye views

2256
01:13:40,390 --> 01:13:38,480
and all of this is a bad accident like

2257
01:13:42,070 --> 01:13:40,400
he's got scars on his face this dude was

2258
01:13:43,350 --> 01:13:42,080
really jacked up right and pretty boy

2259
01:13:45,990 --> 01:13:43,360
and he really got jacked up in his

2260
01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:46,000
accident so he's confined to this

2261
01:13:49,270 --> 01:13:48,480
bed and it's like a prison it's like a

2262
01:13:51,350 --> 01:13:49,280
trap for him

2263
01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:51,360
but he's hearing this noise coming from

2264
01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:52,800
the bathroom

2265
01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:54,960
and he goes to the process of

2266
01:13:58,149 --> 01:13:56,880
elimination of trying to figure out what

2267
01:13:58,709 --> 01:13:58,159
it is he's like well maybe it's the

2268
01:14:00,149 --> 01:13:58,719
shower

2269
01:14:02,149 --> 01:14:00,159
maybe you know somebody stayed and they

2270
01:14:03,669 --> 01:14:02,159
took a shower and he's like no i know

2271
01:14:05,350 --> 01:14:03,679
what running water sounds like

2272
01:14:07,030 --> 01:14:05,360
it's like well maybe it's the toilet

2273
01:14:08,550 --> 01:14:07,040
maybe it's the toilet backing up like

2274
01:14:10,870 --> 01:14:08,560
you know anybody's ever had that toilet

2275
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:10,880
bubble up he's like maybe it's a toilet

2276
01:14:15,270 --> 01:14:12,719
it's like no it's not the toilet and

2277
01:14:17,750 --> 01:14:15,280
then his mind starts kind of racing

2278
01:14:18,709 --> 01:14:17,760
and it quickly eliminates what these

2279
01:14:20,630 --> 01:14:18,719
sounds are and

2280
01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:20,640
it goes to the point where it's like it

2281
01:14:24,149 --> 01:14:22,480
sounds like people screaming

2282
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:24,159
and then it got loud enough to where he

2283
01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:25,600
could make it out and his

2284
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:27,040
exact words to me he's like bro it

2285
01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:29,120
sounded like hell was in the bathroom

2286
01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:30,480
i was like what do you mean he said it

2287
01:14:34,149 --> 01:14:32,880
sounded like hell a portal to hell was

2288
01:14:36,470 --> 01:14:34,159
in the bathroom like

2289
01:14:38,470 --> 01:14:36,480
somebody opened the portal to hell and

2290
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:38,480
the voices of people screaming and being

2291
01:14:41,990 --> 01:14:39,360
tortured

2292
01:14:43,590 --> 01:14:42,000
was coming out of the bathroom and i'm

2293
01:14:45,990 --> 01:14:43,600
like come on dude

2294
01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:46,000
you know you you can't be serious and

2295
01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:47,520
he's like nah just hit me out

2296
01:14:50,870 --> 01:14:49,360
he was like trust me i'm not gonna lie

2297
01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:50,880
to you he's like i don't have a reason

2298
01:14:55,990 --> 01:14:51,600
to

2299
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:56,000
um and he's like these sounds sound like

2300
01:14:59,990 --> 01:14:57,600
a porter to hell and i said well what

2301
01:15:00,630 --> 01:15:00,000
happened next he's like dude i'm lame

2302
01:15:02,550 --> 01:15:00,640
now

2303
01:15:03,990 --> 01:15:02,560
and he's like i'm cool with the sounds

2304
01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:04,000
because you know okay

2305
01:15:08,790 --> 01:15:06,880
maybe i'm i'm on the medicines and the

2306
01:15:10,709 --> 01:15:08,800
meds are making me hallucinate

2307
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:10,719
and he's justifying these things he's

2308
01:15:12,790 --> 01:15:11,760
like you know imagine making me

2309
01:15:14,470 --> 01:15:12,800
hallucinate

2310
01:15:16,149 --> 01:15:14,480
and that's all it is to it so he and

2311
01:15:17,030 --> 01:15:16,159
that's what our mind naturally does we

2312
01:15:19,270 --> 01:15:17,040
justify

2313
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:19,280
and we rationalize things so he

2314
01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:21,360
rationalizes it as

2315
01:15:26,149 --> 01:15:23,600
the medicine is doing something to him

2316
01:15:27,669 --> 01:15:26,159
he's hearing things and simple

2317
01:15:29,430 --> 01:15:27,679
well then he hears the bathroom door

2318
01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:29,440
crack open

2319
01:15:33,189 --> 01:15:31,600
and the door was closed and i've been in

2320
01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:33,199
methodist hospital unfortunately my

2321
01:15:36,149 --> 01:15:34,320
mother died there

2322
01:15:37,910 --> 01:15:36,159
with cancer so i know exactly knew

2323
01:15:40,149 --> 01:15:37,920
exactly what he was talking about there

2324
01:15:41,350 --> 01:15:40,159
are these heavy wooden doors

2325
01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:41,360
uh and i thought about heavy there were

2326
01:15:46,870 --> 01:15:43,280
heavy one doors and they had these

2327
01:15:49,750 --> 01:15:46,880
big thick old-school uh

2328
01:15:50,790 --> 01:15:49,760
doorknobs on them so and when you turn

2329
01:15:52,229 --> 01:15:50,800
the doorknob

2330
01:15:54,070 --> 01:15:52,239
in order to open it you had to

2331
01:15:55,430 --> 01:15:54,080
physically turn it like

2332
01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:55,440
and when you let it go it would make

2333
01:15:59,350 --> 01:15:57,199
this noise like [\h__\h] [\h__\h]

2334
01:16:01,350 --> 01:15:59,360
like it would go in and out like you it

2335
01:16:02,630 --> 01:16:01,360
was designed to where once you close it

2336
01:16:06,070 --> 01:16:02,640
it was closed and once it was open it

2337
01:16:08,229 --> 01:16:06,080
was open well

2338
01:16:09,590 --> 01:16:08,239
it's opening and then he hears the the

2339
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:09,600
door creaking

2340
01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:10,960
and so at this point in time he's kind

2341
01:16:13,430 --> 01:16:12,320
of looking at his eyes and going left to

2342
01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:13,440
right because he's in the neck bridge

2343
01:16:15,110 --> 01:16:14,480
he's trying to figure out what's going

2344
01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:15,120
on

2345
01:16:19,030 --> 01:16:17,440
the room is not exactly the brightest

2346
01:16:20,950 --> 01:16:19,040
room because he's supposed to be sweet

2347
01:16:23,110 --> 01:16:20,960
they got the lights off

2348
01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:23,120
and so he's freaking out and the door

2349
01:16:26,390 --> 01:16:25,040
slowly starts to come open

2350
01:16:27,990 --> 01:16:26,400
at that point in time i said man what

2351
01:16:29,270 --> 01:16:28,000
did you think about doing bro what did

2352
01:16:31,990 --> 01:16:29,280
you decide to do

2353
01:16:33,590 --> 01:16:32,000
he said man you know and he said i said

2354
01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:33,600
effort man i don't care if

2355
01:16:37,510 --> 01:16:35,760
if all these wires come out of me

2356
01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:37,520
everything comes off my arm if i

2357
01:16:41,669 --> 01:16:39,760
if my neck if i get paralyzed whatever's

2358
01:16:44,790 --> 01:16:41,679
in his bathroom is too dangerous

2359
01:16:45,669 --> 01:16:44,800
i gotta get help and so he rolls to his

2360
01:16:48,149 --> 01:16:45,679
left

2361
01:16:48,950 --> 01:16:48,159
and yanks all the stuff that's attached

2362
01:16:51,669 --> 01:16:48,960
to him

2363
01:16:52,870 --> 01:16:51,679
reaching for the nurse button he grabs

2364
01:16:54,070 --> 01:16:52,880
the nurse button which is on the other

2365
01:16:56,229 --> 01:16:54,080
table across from me

2366
01:16:57,430 --> 01:16:56,239
his whole body is turned over grabbing

2367
01:16:58,470 --> 01:16:57,440
the nurse button hitting the nurse

2368
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:58,480
button pressing and pressing and

2369
01:17:01,030 --> 01:16:59,280
pressing it

2370
01:17:02,390 --> 01:17:01,040
well it makes his heart monitors and all

2371
01:17:05,510 --> 01:17:02,400
his other stuff detached

2372
01:17:07,189 --> 01:17:05,520
the signal on the machine flat lines

2373
01:17:08,149 --> 01:17:07,199
of course the nation's come running in

2374
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:08,159
there because they're thinking he's

2375
01:17:10,390 --> 01:17:08,960
dying

2376
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:10,400
so they come running and turning on the

2377
01:17:13,430 --> 01:17:12,719
lights and they're asking what's wrong

2378
01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:13,440
what's wrong

2379
01:17:16,149 --> 01:17:15,040
he says i want another room and he was

2380
01:17:17,669 --> 01:17:16,159
like well what do you mean you want

2381
01:17:18,950 --> 01:17:17,679
another room he said i want another room

2382
01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:18,960
i'm not sleeping in this room

2383
01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:20,880
and so he proceeds to tell one of the

2384
01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:22,560
male nurses what he heard

2385
01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:24,239
the other two female nurses leaving like

2386
01:17:26,950 --> 01:17:25,440
all these guys tripping we need to give

2387
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:26,960
him some medicine and sedate him

2388
01:17:29,910 --> 01:17:28,320
and the male nurse is just kind of

2389
01:17:31,350 --> 01:17:29,920
looking at him as he's telling him

2390
01:17:34,149 --> 01:17:31,360
what's going on he's like bro

2391
01:17:35,750 --> 01:17:34,159
don't sedate me don't do anything please

2392
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:35,760
move me to another room

2393
01:17:38,630 --> 01:17:37,120
and he was like well you know we got to

2394
01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:38,640
put in orders to move you to another

2395
01:17:41,110 --> 01:17:40,080
room it's just not a process he's like

2396
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:41,120
bro i'm telling you

2397
01:17:44,149 --> 01:17:42,880
if you don't move me to another room i'm

2398
01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:44,159
getting up out of this bed and i'm

2399
01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:45,840
walking and i'm going to sleep outside

2400
01:17:49,270 --> 01:17:47,760
he was like what if you don't move into

2401
01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:49,280
another room i'm walking out of this

2402
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:50,159
bedroom

2403
01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:52,000
i don't know how but i'm going somewhere

2404
01:17:56,950 --> 01:17:53,679
and i'm getting out of this room

2405
01:17:59,590 --> 01:17:56,960
so about an hour later

2406
01:18:01,510 --> 01:17:59,600
the there's no more activity the male

2407
01:18:03,910 --> 01:18:01,520
nurse comes back and he says hey

2408
01:18:04,709 --> 01:18:03,920
i'm moving you to another room he says

2409
01:18:07,830 --> 01:18:04,719
you

2410
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:07,840
i'm fine i'm fine but

2411
01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:09,760
i don't want to be in this room so he

2412
01:18:12,630 --> 01:18:11,199
asked the male nurse he said you

2413
01:18:14,229 --> 01:18:12,640
you're familiar with what i'm talking

2414
01:18:16,470 --> 01:18:14,239
about you've experienced this

2415
01:18:18,149 --> 01:18:16,480
and the guy looks at him he says well

2416
01:18:21,350 --> 01:18:18,159
this particular room

2417
01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:21,360
um people who stay here everybody talks

2418
01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:22,880
about hearing sounds coming out of the

2419
01:18:26,149 --> 01:18:23,920
bedroom

2420
01:18:27,830 --> 01:18:26,159
and nobody really wants to stay in this

2421
01:18:28,870 --> 01:18:27,840
room in the hospital i don't know why he

2422
01:18:30,229 --> 01:18:28,880
was like but

2423
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:30,239
you know we know that there's something

2424
01:18:32,709 --> 01:18:31,360
wrong with the drum he's like well why

2425
01:18:33,830 --> 01:18:32,719
would y'all put me in this room if you

2426
01:18:35,110 --> 01:18:33,840
know something's wrong with it why don't

2427
01:18:36,550 --> 01:18:35,120
y'all just close it

2428
01:18:38,470 --> 01:18:36,560
he was like dude i didn't assign you to

2429
01:18:39,990 --> 01:18:38,480
the room i i didn't put you here

2430
01:18:41,669 --> 01:18:40,000
he's like well i want to leave and i

2431
01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:41,679
want to go and so they move him to

2432
01:18:45,830 --> 01:18:43,440
another room he gets rest

2433
01:18:47,189 --> 01:18:45,840
and he doesn't have any more issues so

2434
01:18:48,870 --> 01:18:47,199
that's one of the stories i'm going to

2435
01:18:50,709 --> 01:18:48,880
use to promote the channel

2436
01:18:52,390 --> 01:18:50,719
when i bring that one life and make it

2437
01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:52,400
sound beautiful probably the most

2438
01:18:57,030 --> 01:18:55,120
frightening encounter people ever heard

2439
01:18:59,430 --> 01:18:57,040
it's not super long but

2440
01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:59,440
it it comes from someone when i think a

2441
01:19:04,149 --> 01:19:00,800
close friend

2442
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:04,159
yeah um yeah put it like this when his

2443
01:19:08,630 --> 01:19:04,800
wife

2444
01:19:10,709 --> 01:19:08,640
child

2445
01:19:12,390 --> 01:19:10,719
um not only was i at the christening for

2446
01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:12,400
the child but i was

2447
01:19:17,590 --> 01:19:16,080
i was responsible for um for organizing

2448
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:17,600
the food and the music and everything

2449
01:19:20,070 --> 01:19:18,000
else

2450
01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:20,080
you know that's how close we're talking

2451
01:19:23,830 --> 01:19:22,000
about in the friend i turn of this

2452
01:19:25,189 --> 01:19:23,840
if i needed help that's one of the

2453
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:25,199
people i would call

2454
01:19:28,630 --> 01:19:26,480
well you know i've heard i've heard of

2455
01:19:31,270 --> 01:19:28,640
these haunted rooms in hospitals

2456
01:19:32,630 --> 01:19:31,280
and in fact there was um i did a story

2457
01:19:35,270 --> 01:19:32,640
not long ago about

2458
01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:35,280
a hospital and and i believe it was

2459
01:19:39,430 --> 01:19:36,000
milwaukee

2460
01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:39,440
where um a nurse a young nurse had been

2461
01:19:45,910 --> 01:19:42,880
raped and murdered and

2462
01:19:48,390 --> 01:19:45,920
this particular room

2463
01:19:50,070 --> 01:19:48,400
her spirit was always show up and be

2464
01:19:54,070 --> 01:19:50,080
sitting on a chair

2465
01:19:55,110 --> 01:19:54,080
watching patients and uh yeah that's

2466
01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:55,120
crazy

2467
01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:58,080
yeah but i mean and people it was almost

2468
01:20:01,590 --> 01:19:59,040
like that

2469
01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:01,600
everybody wanted to get out of that room

2470
01:20:05,990 --> 01:20:03,840
and uh eventually i think eventually

2471
01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:06,000
they turned it into uh

2472
01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:08,560
what it was the rumor originally was a

2473
01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:10,400
nurses lounge

2474
01:20:14,229 --> 01:20:12,800
so it was uh you know when after she had

2475
01:20:16,950 --> 01:20:14,239
passed they had turned into a

2476
01:20:18,310 --> 01:20:16,960
you know did some real uh renovating in

2477
01:20:21,430 --> 01:20:18,320
the hospital and they

2478
01:20:24,709 --> 01:20:21,440
became a a room and uh

2479
01:20:25,830 --> 01:20:24,719
this this woman was you know i guess she

2480
01:20:27,750 --> 01:20:25,840
was happy

2481
01:20:29,270 --> 01:20:27,760
in the nurses lounge well that was she

2482
01:20:30,629 --> 01:20:29,280
ended up in

2483
01:20:32,310 --> 01:20:30,639
these all these patients were saying

2484
01:20:35,430 --> 01:20:32,320
they were waking up and this nurse was

2485
01:20:36,950 --> 01:20:35,440
sitting on the chair watching them

2486
01:20:38,390 --> 01:20:36,960
i just want to tell you i just walked

2487
01:20:39,990 --> 01:20:38,400
back into my house and turned on all the

2488
01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:40,000
lights because i just scared myself

2489
01:20:42,550 --> 01:20:41,280
so i turned all the lights in the house

2490
01:20:43,590 --> 01:20:42,560
because when i walked out i turned all

2491
01:20:45,110 --> 01:20:43,600
the lights off i was on the porch and

2492
01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:45,120
just turned on the kitchen light

2493
01:20:48,470 --> 01:20:46,960
in the bathroom like so i had some likes

2494
01:20:49,910 --> 01:20:48,480
i'm scared myself and that's the crazy

2495
01:20:52,629 --> 01:20:49,920
thing about what i do

2496
01:20:54,790 --> 01:20:52,639
like yeah people want people oh man at

2497
01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:54,800
school their story is spooky and scary

2498
01:20:58,950 --> 01:20:56,320
i really don't release stuff until it

2499
01:21:00,709 --> 01:20:58,960
scares me so i scare myself

2500
01:21:02,310 --> 01:21:00,719
in the process of telling these stories

2501
01:21:03,830 --> 01:21:02,320
and duties doing these things

2502
01:21:06,229 --> 01:21:03,840
and once i'm scared then i know it's

2503
01:21:08,550 --> 01:21:06,239
good because yeah you know

2504
01:21:10,550 --> 01:21:08,560
i really do scare myself do we have the

2505
01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:10,560
way of facilitating any phone calls with

2506
01:21:13,270 --> 01:21:11,440
people because i know there were a

2507
01:21:16,470 --> 01:21:13,280
number of people who wanted to call in

2508
01:21:18,310 --> 01:21:16,480
do we have extra lines for phone calls

2509
01:21:20,709 --> 01:21:18,320
the way the thing is tonight we're going

2510
01:21:23,189 --> 01:21:20,719
to be moving to another system

2511
01:21:25,189 --> 01:21:23,199
uh starting next week and we've had

2512
01:21:27,750 --> 01:21:25,199
issues with phone calls

2513
01:21:29,590 --> 01:21:27,760
and knocking knock off and but you know

2514
01:21:30,870 --> 01:21:29,600
what dw we're going to have to bring you

2515
01:21:34,149 --> 01:21:30,880
back

2516
01:21:36,149 --> 01:21:34,159
uh anytime you're ready

2517
01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:36,159
because uh i want to hear more of this

2518
01:21:39,030 --> 01:21:37,199
stuff and uh

2519
01:21:40,830 --> 01:21:39,040
you're very entertaining it's our

2520
01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:40,840
pleasure tonight to have you

2521
01:21:45,990 --> 01:21:43,920
absolutely absolutely uh

2522
01:21:47,189 --> 01:21:46,000
is there anything uh is there any place

2523
01:21:50,870 --> 01:21:47,199
you want to direct people

2524
01:21:53,430 --> 01:21:50,880
give uh any information out before you

2525
01:21:55,270 --> 01:21:53,440
before we begin the show tonight yeah

2526
01:21:56,470 --> 01:21:55,280
it's very easy to find me

2527
01:21:57,910 --> 01:21:56,480
at this point in time i think it's

2528
01:21:58,709 --> 01:21:57,920
getting pretty popular so it's kind of

2529
01:22:00,550 --> 01:21:58,719
blowing up but

2530
01:22:01,910 --> 01:22:00,560
if you go to youtube this is where you

2531
01:22:04,950 --> 01:22:01,920
can find all the work

2532
01:22:06,709 --> 01:22:04,960
you type in darth waters channel and

2533
01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:06,719
it'll pull up all the work that i have

2534
01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:08,400
there then if you're on facebook or

2535
01:22:13,030 --> 01:22:09,440
twitter

2536
01:22:13,709 --> 01:22:13,040
um just it's www.facebookbackslash at

2537
01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:13,719
dark

2538
01:22:22,629 --> 01:22:21,040
um for the people who like want to talk

2539
01:22:24,229 --> 01:22:22,639
to me on facebook please understand i am

2540
01:22:25,669 --> 01:22:24,239
not the facebook generation or twitter

2541
01:22:26,790 --> 01:22:25,679
generation i'm just figuring out how to

2542
01:22:29,430 --> 01:22:26,800
use this

2543
01:22:31,189 --> 01:22:29,440
so you know people message me like i'm

2544
01:22:33,189 --> 01:22:31,199
like dude call me i have a phone number

2545
01:22:35,189 --> 01:22:33,199
for you to call me just call me

2546
01:22:36,550 --> 01:22:35,199
i prefer to talk to you then like spend

2547
01:22:37,990 --> 01:22:36,560
time typing on a keyboard

2548
01:22:40,070 --> 01:22:38,000
because it's just i love talking to

2549
01:22:41,510 --> 01:22:40,080
people and i just think that

2550
01:22:44,629 --> 01:22:41,520
we're losing the essence of

2551
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:44,639
communication um

2552
01:22:48,709 --> 01:22:47,520
the killing communication i definitely

2553
01:22:50,790 --> 01:22:48,719
agree with you there

2554
01:22:52,229 --> 01:22:50,800
well thanks again for coming on with us

2555
01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:52,239
i'm sorry for all the

2556
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:54,880
the problems we had but uh hopefully

2557
01:22:58,149 --> 01:22:56,880
we'll get that straightened out this is

2558
01:22:59,830 --> 01:22:58,159
actually this is the first we've been

2559
01:23:01,030 --> 01:22:59,840
back in about a month because i just got

2560
01:23:04,310 --> 01:23:01,040
done moving

2561
01:23:05,830 --> 01:23:04,320
so um we had

2562
01:23:07,910 --> 01:23:05,840
i figured we'd have a few problems

2563
01:23:09,590 --> 01:23:07,920
tonight but uh if you

2564
01:23:11,910 --> 01:23:09,600
if you'd like to come back we would

2565
01:23:13,590 --> 01:23:11,920
definitely love to have you come on

2566
01:23:14,950 --> 01:23:13,600
i'd definitely love to come back and

2567
01:23:17,030 --> 01:23:14,960
then i want to try and

2568
01:23:19,189 --> 01:23:17,040
maybe mean you can do something together

2569
01:23:20,550 --> 01:23:19,199
where some of your stories if you allow

2570
01:23:21,590 --> 01:23:20,560
me to get some of your stories and bring

2571
01:23:23,030 --> 01:23:21,600
them to life for you

2572
01:23:25,510 --> 01:23:23,040
because you guys get a lot of reports

2573
01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:25,520
like i do i would love to dramatize

2574
01:23:28,709 --> 01:23:27,040
throughout oh my god that's not the way

2575
01:23:29,030 --> 01:23:28,719
i'm looking you know what i'm trying to

2576
01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:29,040
say

2577
01:23:33,189 --> 01:23:30,480
i'd love to bring one of those stories

2578
01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:33,199
to life for you guys for you guys

2579
01:23:37,110 --> 01:23:35,520
um interviewers it's just a gift from me

2580
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:37,120
to you a thank you gift

2581
01:23:40,149 --> 01:23:39,840
um and if you want to read it yourself

2582
01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:40,159
and

2583
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:43,360
it'll be great

2584
01:23:46,550 --> 01:23:45,280
well that sounds great so uh we'll be

2585
01:23:47,750 --> 01:23:46,560
talking

2586
01:23:49,750 --> 01:23:47,760
definitely all right sounds good

2587
01:23:50,149 --> 01:23:49,760
gentlemen all right thank you again very

2588
01:23:52,149 --> 01:23:50,159
much

2589
01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:52,159
great show tonight good night thank you

2590
01:23:56,709 --> 01:23:53,440
guys

2591
01:23:58,310 --> 01:23:56,719
good night man what a show

2592
01:23:59,990 --> 01:23:58,320
lon i i have to tell you i had to go

2593
01:24:01,990 --> 01:24:00,000
over and lock my screen door i had my

2594
01:24:03,910 --> 01:24:02,000
front door open

2595
01:24:05,669 --> 01:24:03,920
and a couple times i had to run over

2596
01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:05,679
there just to just to check

2597
01:24:12,390 --> 01:24:11,590
that that uh that first dogman story for

2598
01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:12,400
some that

2599
01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:16,560
um and i i have i have had

2600
01:24:19,669 --> 01:24:17,920
and of course you know everybody talks

2601
01:24:20,550 --> 01:24:19,679
about new orleans in the area around

2602
01:24:23,110 --> 01:24:20,560
there and

2603
01:24:24,870 --> 01:24:23,120
all the weird things that go on and uh

2604
01:24:25,669 --> 01:24:24,880
but i have had some stories from down

2605
01:24:28,550 --> 01:24:25,679
there

2606
01:24:29,189 --> 01:24:28,560
so um yeah we're definitely gonna get dw

2607
01:24:31,110 --> 01:24:29,199
come back

2608
01:24:33,910 --> 01:24:31,120
oh yeah pretty cool it wasn't for that

2609
01:24:37,910 --> 01:24:33,920
damn issue but it is working

2610
01:24:40,229 --> 01:24:37,920
guys go ahead nope go ahead

2611
01:24:41,110 --> 01:24:40,239
no i'm just saying we're uh hopefully

2612
01:24:44,310 --> 01:24:41,120
we're going to have

2613
01:24:46,310 --> 01:24:44,320
the spreaker system set up next week and

2614
01:24:49,350 --> 01:24:46,320
uh we would definitely love to have

2615
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:49,360
our our listeners call in and i think it

2616
01:24:52,470 --> 01:24:51,040
would be a lot easier with that

2617
01:24:54,070 --> 01:24:52,480
well we're going to make it happen some

2618
01:24:54,470 --> 01:24:54,080
way i'm going to find to get this to

2619
01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:54,480
work

2620
01:25:00,709 --> 01:24:58,480
seamlessly yup but folks so uh

2621
01:25:02,870 --> 01:25:00,719
next week we have uh kathleen martin

2622
01:25:05,350 --> 01:25:02,880
coming along with us yes we do

2623
01:25:07,430 --> 01:25:05,360
and uh i know butch is very familiar

2624
01:25:08,870 --> 01:25:07,440
with kathleen when she was a mufon he

2625
01:25:11,430 --> 01:25:08,880
was a mufon

2626
01:25:11,990 --> 01:25:11,440
and uh i talked we talked to kathleen

2627
01:25:14,709 --> 01:25:12,000
over the other

2628
01:25:16,390 --> 01:25:14,719
station the other channel oh god was

2629
01:25:18,470 --> 01:25:16,400
about two years ago

2630
01:25:20,149 --> 01:25:18,480
and she had written a book about alien

2631
01:25:22,790 --> 01:25:20,159
abduction

2632
01:25:24,709 --> 01:25:22,800
so uh she's got a few new things for us

2633
01:25:27,510 --> 01:25:24,719
i think and uh

2634
01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:27,520
we'll talk to her next week yep until

2635
01:25:30,390 --> 01:25:28,960
then folks you've been listening to

2636
01:25:32,229 --> 01:25:30,400
arcane radio

2637
01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:32,239
sean forker lon strickler butch

2638
01:25:36,870 --> 01:25:34,960
buckowski and our guest tonight

2639
01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:36,880
dark waters himself and we're going to

2640
01:25:40,830 --> 01:25:38,560
have him back in the program sometime

2641
01:25:43,590 --> 01:25:40,840
soon stay tuned to the website

2642
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:43,600
arcaneradio.com for more information we

2643
01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:45,520
are glad to be back and glad you came

2644
01:25:48,950 --> 01:25:47,040
with us tonight on this

2645
01:25:51,510 --> 01:25:48,960
strange journey beyond the edge and into